Casting without Considering Appearance

[suestorm]

fair enough carlos!

[newintown]

The problem with trying to actually discuss race (as opposed to lecture or rant), is that everyone believes that they know the truth, and anyone who disagrees is ignorant and wrong.

This precludes, by definition, "discussion."

[CarlosAlberto]

^ I will co-sign that. This is very true and it basically goes on in almost 99.9% of the threads on this (or any other) internet forum.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

It's a shame you think that way, newintown, but that's your prerogative. Perhaps the problem is that so many who think they are making points against color-blind casting are usually using straw men at best or pulling up stereotypes (as a joke? I don't know) instead of actually making a point.

I mean, why should someone ever take anything Dave19 says serious ever again after this (not that most people took him seriously before)?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Not that is contributes to anything, but Belize in Angles America was black.

[madbrian]

I think part of the contention comes from the fact that most, if not all, 'black' roles are considered such because race was an issue in the story, whereas most 'white' roles are considered such because a white person happened to be cast in that role initially.

[newintown]

I'm sorry, I don't want to fight with you, Phyl. I don't have to.

[THDavis]

Speaking at a more regional level, I think it's important and rather interesting to take in a show that truly requires you to suspend disbelief. Film is there to show us literal translations of work, but the stage allows the audience to take a journey into their own mind and really piece together and observe a story in their own way. If a black (or white) MAN can sing the sh*t out of Effie, why not? Are we really too uncreative as theatergoers to observe the piece as a whole instead of singling out one or more characteristics that the text doesn't support? Now I can see this not working at a more mainstream level, but theatre is a place to showcase creative talents and to bend rules on the way you normally see things to give you an experience truly unique to the stage. If we can't allow that, then we may as well let theatre fizzle out the way it has been in the past X number of decades.

[Mister Matt]

The problem with trying to actually discuss anything with newintown, is that he believes that he knows the truth, and anyone who disagrees is ignorant and wrong.

[newintown]

Ooooo! Matt! Pot! Kettle! Beige!

See that? See that there?

[suestorm]

"The problem with trying to actually discuss anything with newintown, is that he believes that he knows the truth, and anyone who disagrees is ignorant and wrong."

Thank you MisterMatt, PhyllisRogersStonne i thought i was the only one he lectured and tried to bully

[newintown]

That's an irresponsible use of that word, "bully," suestorm. It's been discussed already - you need to stop name-calling, dear. It isn't lady-like. Now go get a juicebox and take your nap.

[CarlosAlberto]

Well it contributed by pointing out my error so @ Phyllis Rogers Stone thanks for the correction in regards to Belize's ethnicity in ANGELS IN AMERICA. I don't know why I thought he was Hispanic.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Because it's a Central American country and you're racist and HOW VERY DARE YOU!!!

You're welcome.

[suestorm]

"Now go get a juicebox and take your nap."



you just proved my point NEWINTOWN. just some friendly advice...I know your Mommy mustve told you that youre the center of the universe and can do no wrong, but i dont think she meant you to take it so literal

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

This thread sucks so hard.

[newintown]

Oh, suestorm - so petulant and defensive! And - what was it that Joey called you? It's on the tip of my tongue...

[Wynbish]

[suestorm]

newintown, you cant get along with anyone but your fellow meangirls can you?

so sorry i hurt your feelings.

[CarlosAlberto]

Because it's a Central American country and you're racist and HOW VERY DARE YOU!!!

You're welcome.

OMG! So, so funny!!! Subliminally that really must be it!!! You done told me SonofRobbieJ!!!

[newintown]

The problem with feeding trolls, like feeding goats at the county fair, is that they won't stop following you after you're done...

[suestorm]

the problem with bullies is if you dont stand up to them, they keep at it, and if you do they start crying like a little girl.

[BeadleDeedle]

and what's so wrong with crying like a little girl?

Bully.

[suestorm]

nothing, if youre a little girl! like me! lol

[CarlosAlberto]

^ I think this poster really is a young girl. Her dad purchased tickets for her to go see CINDERELLA.

[Dave19]

If it is just about race and not about minorities then it should count for all descents, so no more all American girls voicing an Arabian Disney Princess (Jasmine), or no Asians for that matter, no more Americans playing people from Swedish descent in films just because they are blonde, no more American actors playing Dutch people (like in Titanic), but only hire real Dutch people, and I could go on forever.