Pippin Will Sell

[Briaansmith]

Pippin will sell, Charlotte was excellent in A Chorus Line and well reviewed and Patina looks excellent in this. I will be amazed this does not get a tony for best revival. If Patina does not get a tony nom I will be amazed.

[ljay889]

I don't predict good things for this thread.

[Briaansmith]

But I do think Robert Pattinson should play PIPPIN won't happen but I can dream

[Phantom of London]

Yes, I think this will sell, but will be available for the regular discounts.

No, I don't think this will win the Tony, the show has to be extraordinary excellent, as all I hear are superlatives about Drood, however this is dependent whether Drood extends, as we know a show that has closed early has little hope of winning a Tony.

[Kelly2]

Here's my obligatory comment that unless this show literally reinvents the wheel onstage, it probably won't beat Drood.

[ACL2006]

The Best Revival Tony is now between Pippin & Drood. The other two nominees will be Annie + Jekyll & Hyde by default.

[Kelly2]

The only deciding factor, IMO, is if Drood closes as planned on March 10th and Pippin runs through awards season, that could be a big factor. If Drood extends and runs through June, I don't think Pippin has a shot.

[Owen22]

Have we all seen Pippin yet? No, I think not. I know we have this unabiding love for the Drood revival, but let's see if the advance word on Pippin's fabulousness is correct or not before conjecturing it will lose the Tony.

[dramamama611]

Kelly -- I know you love Drood, I thought it was a wonderful show as well, but since you haven't even SEEN Pippin, how can you start making those judgements?

I've seen both, and I couldn't even begin to digest which is 'better'. I think one thing that Pippin has over Drood is that there is a different feel to Pippin, it is re-visioned. Drood is a very strait forward revival.

They are both wonderful shows, and yes, if Drood doesn't extend, it won't stand much of a chance. If it does extend, I think it will be a very close call to determine the victor.

[Kelly2]

But where can I go if not BroadwayWorld to speculate wildly before having seen a show?

[dramamama611]

Well, silly me. I forgot where I was!

[bwayphreak234]

The Best Revival Tony is now between Pippin & Drood. The other two nominees will be Annie + Jekyll & Hyde by default.

Don't forget Cinderella.

[bdn223]

We still don't know if Cinderella's producers will push the show as a New Musical or a revival come award season since it could honestly go either way. Even though the film has been adapted to the stage before this is an entirely new adaptation akin to Crazy for You and Nice Work if you Can Get It, which are essentially Gershwinrevivals of Girl Crazy and Oh Kay! that threw out their original books and added a couple songs.

Honestly if Cinderella opens to glowing reviews I think it's producers may push for Best New Musical, while if they mixed-panned they will stick with revival since tradition shows that anything will be nominated over a Wildhorn show(Jekyll and Hyde). Although the show stands little chance of winning best new musical the push would help in their campaign for DCB's book, which it doesn't need if his book is not well received.

[jv92]

As much as I loathe Diane Paulus' work (and her attitude towards PORGY AND BESS), I think this could do alright. It's an entertaining show, and it looks like a fun cast, AND they're using the original Fosse choreography, right?

[Kelly2]

Cinderella is not a revival. I really doubt they will be able to push themselves into that category. I think they will be in Best Musical if they are nominated at all.

[whatever2]

"revisioned" = fail.

no one who verbs a noun deserves a Tony.

[dramamama611]

ONE sequence is credited as Fosse's choreo. The rest is in "the style of Fosse.


Cinderella could very easily be put into the revival category even though it has never been on b'way before. There have been extensive discussion about this. It depends on how much is new material (book and music wise). The material is simply too well known to assume it can be considered new. (I'm not pretending that I can exact the language which governs this.) I suspect it will go in the revival category.

[Mr Roxy]

Remember seeing the original with a killer cast of :

Ben Vereen
Jill Clayburg
Irene Ryan
John Rubenstein

Add to that Fosse direction and choreography . The score is better than Wicked.

[broadwaydevil]

Early consensus from everything I've heard seems to indicate Cinderella will be considered a revival under the classics rule which states that, "A play or musical that is determined by the Tony Awards Administration Committee (in its sole discretion) to be a "classic" or in the historical or popular repertoire shall not be eligible for an Award in the Best Play or Best Musical category but maybe eligible in the appropriate Best Revival category." Plays and musicals that were debuting on Broadway but were considered revivals under this rule include The Normal Heart, Assassins, and Little Shop of Horrors.

Obviously the producers can petition either way depending on where they think they stand but the Committee has the ultimate power to decide,

[FindingNamo]

Should people use the word "literally" without grasping its definition? Kelly2?

[Kelly2]

No, Namo, I meant LITERALLY reinventing the wheel. Onstage. Live. During the performance.

[LayerBoy4]

I've had the opportunity to see both "Drood" and "Pippin," and, while loving both, I do think that "Pippin" is a better production and, perhaps, a better piece of theater overall. The combination of the circus performers with the Fosse-esque choreographer creates many many visual delights. The new orchestrations are lovely - modernized just enough, while paying homage to the original sound. The vocals are all top notch and the direction was clean and clear.

[HenryTDobson]

I've also been fortunate enough to have seen both productions and I must agree with LayerBoy4 that Pippin was indeed the better production. While I found both productions very enjoyable, Pippin literally (yes, literally) took my breath away. It was one amazing theatrical moment after another.

But it's really comparing apples to oranges. Both are incredible productions, and I would hope that you guys would preserve your opinions until AFTER you've seen both of them.

And yes, this is my first post here. I've been a long time lurker who has finally gotten up the courage to start posting.

[TheatreKid3]

I'd say CINDERELLA will definitely be considered a revival, especially since the show show is so old (even though it has been reinvented). Question, though: if it is considered a revival, does that rule out DCB's book for a Best Book nomination even though the show's book has never played Broadway, especially with it being so heavily revised to the point where the book has never been performed anywhere? I know this sounds contradictory, but still.

[dramamama611]

Whatever2 says

"revisioned" = fail.

Well, a quickly typed post will yield typos. And while I meant to type ENvision, "vision: (according to Webster's) CAN be used as a verb (See link below, but be sure to scroll down about 1/2 way to see it.)



no one who verbs a noun deserves a Tony

When did the noun, VERB, become a verb itself? (I see no evidence on already refered to Webster's) I doubt you were trying to be clever, but perhaps you were.

Oh, an I definitley do not a deserve a Tony -- an I'm the one that wrote that -- not anyone that has anything to do with the production.


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[AnythingGoes23]

Cinderella has never been on Broadway so it's a new musical, no?