Annie vs Drood

[Phantom of London]

Considering it is quite a thin year, just like it was a couple years back for best revival and although I enjoy listening to Jekyll and Hyde, I cannot see it cutting it to the chase at the Tonys, which would mean the two main contenders for the Tony for best revival are playing Broadway right now: Annie and the Mystery of Edwin Drood, which both got good reviews, but what one do you think will get the Tony next year?

[little_sally]

Don't forget Cinderella! Plus, it seems like Pump Boys and Dinettes is trying to open this season, right? Too early to call.

[KBroadway232]

well actually Cinderella is not a revival since its never been on broadway. so actually R and H can be nominated for best score.im seeing drood taking the tony

[little_sally]

Pretty sure Cinderella will be a revival (similar to how LSOH was a revival a few years back...material is too familiar to be considered a new show).

[tazber]

Yea, it's too early.

I would love for Drood to win. I think it all depends on how Cinderella turns out.

[Phantom of London]

You have to play Broadway before to be considered a revival, unfortunately Cinderella hasn't. Because a similar show has played Broadway before doesn't mean it will make a new similar show legible, think last year with 'One Man, Two Guvnors', which was based on 'The Master of Two Servants', which the producers lobbied on this basis that this show was a genuine revival, which in turn left the Tony committee unimpressed thus leaving empty handed.

[BroadwayChica]

"You have to play Broadway before to be considered a revival"

Not true. Both "Assassins" and more recently "Normal Heart" were considered revivals come awards time, even though neither one had ever played on Broadway.

[goldenboy]

If Annie (the aborted abysmal version) wins a Tony for Best Revival .. there is no theatre god or he is sleeping. Drood is a far superior revival. The Annie Revival is a study in not how to do a revival. If there is a theatre god. the annie revival will not be nominated.

[dramamama611]

I doubt Cinderella will be considered "new". For the reasons stated above.

There is a difference between ASKING for one because you think it might be easier to win, and being ASSIGNED into a certain category.

[AEA AGMA SM]

And to further drive the point home, here is the rule directly copied from the Tony Awards rulebook for the 2012-2013 season

"(g) Classics. A play or musical that is determined by the Tony Awards Administration Committee (in its sole discretion) to be a “classic” or in the historical or popular repertoire shall not be eligible for an Award in the Best Play or Best Musical category but may be eligible in the appropriate Best Revival category, if any, provided it meets all other eligibility requirements set forth in these Rules."

Even with a heavily revised book there is little to no chance that Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella will not be deemed a classic.

[Brave Sir Robin2]

If LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS and ASSASSINS are deemed revivals, then CINDERELLA will as well. People are familiar with it through the Julie Andrews, Lesley Ann Warren, and Brandy versions, and a few of the songs are pretty well-known.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Not too mention the numerous regional, summer stock, community, high school, and middle school productions, several tours, and even productions by major opera companies.

[JohnyBroadway]

The last US tour, was billed as a Broadway Musical! Oh how I wish I hadn't lost my souvenir program. The tour was my first ever professional theatre experience, and boy was it magical! And what a top notch cast!
Cinderella

[Quiche2]

Cinderella will for sure not be considered a revival. It has never played BROADWAY before, even if it has been on tour. Drood will take the tony for best revival for sure, by the looks of things. Annie sounds like it sucks this time around. Anyone think Cinderella may be a contender for Best Musical?

[little_sally]

No, it won't be nominated for best musical because it will be a revival.

[bdn223]

Here are the only arguments that I think would cause Cinderella to not be considered a revival:
Although the musical has been staged before this is a "new adaption" of the Rogers and Hammerstein TV movie by Douglas Carter Bean. Also producers could argue that it should be considered a new musical on the grounds that Nice Work If You Can Get It and Crazy for You were despite being hevily revised revivals of Oh Kay and Girl Crazy respectivly. Both of the Gershwin shows retain their original scores with new songs of the catalog being added, which is apparently what also happening with Cinderella (According to DCB he added songs from the R&H trunk).

[winston89]

I am not sure if Cinderella will be a revival or not. But, there are some posters in this thread who need to get their facts straight. There are other factors in determining what a revival is. It's not simply if a show played on Broadway before or not. It also has to with how well known the work is. Talk Radio, Wit, The Normal Heart, Little Shop are all examples of shows that only played Broadway once and yet were considered revivals come awards time.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Crazy for You was not just a heavily revised version of Girl Crazy. It did not retain the whole score, but dropped a good number of songs as well as interpolating others, as well as changing numerous characters and multiple plot points.

And for those arguments using Crazy for You/Girl Crazy and Nice Work/Oh, Kay I would cite Anything Goes, Damn Yankees, and Flower Drum Song. All three of those also had heavily revised books in their revivals and were still considered revivals. Douglas Carter Bean may end up being eligible for the Best Book award (as was David Henry Hwang for Flower Drum Song), but I can pretty much guarantee that the show itself will be considered a revival.