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Singing On Set

marknyc
Leading Actor
joined:7/6/07
Singing On Set - Revised and Expanded!
Posted: 10/6/12 at 02:28am
When I heard about "Les Miz" being sung live on set, I thought I would do a compilation of all the live singing that's been done in films.

Of course, lip-synching is the rule in musicals, but Paramount did many musicals live on set, and there's the famous flop "At Long Last Love".

Anyway, here's my compilation of some great on-set singing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZllWzMkD8

Mark











Updated On: 2/26/13 at 02:28 AM
trentsketch
Broadway Star
joined:6/25/09
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 10:20am
Hedwig and the Angry Inch was all sung live on set.

Great video.
taboo123
Broadway Legend
joined:5/27/05
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 10:24am
What an amazing video. Thank you for this.
Younger Brother
Featured Actor
joined:8/27/12
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 11:09am
Was any of the rest of the EVITA film sung live on set?
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 11:21am
I remember when the movie version of The Fantasticks was being announced, it was said that they would sing live on set. I don't know if they carried through with that idea, but it was at one point part of an official announcement that they would do it.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 11:22am
Nicely put together. I remain unconvinced that Miss Ross was not synching her lips for the big Wiz number.
kadu335
Stand-by
joined:5/3/09
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 11:27am
There is a British musical movie called HUNKY DORY, released earlier this year, that features the both the cast AND orchestra playing live on set. The movie stars Minnie Driver and Aneurin Barnard (who won the Olivier for Spring Awakening), and they use songs from the late 60's and 70's by artists like Bowie, E.L.O., Beach Boys, Roxy Music (...). Here are two numbers from the show:

THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYbyo46lRg&feature=plcp

LIFE ON MARS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7csQtnCgbSw&feature=plcp

I got the feeling it was live when I saw the movie and later noticed how different some of the songs sounded on the soundtrack. Then, I got the confirmation through this interview with Aneurin, where he said:
"The whole process of "Hunky Dory" was wonderful in that sense, musically. All the kids in the orchestra were playing the instruments. The choir was actually singing every song. Every actor in the film sang everything live."

SondheimFan5
Broadway Legend
joined:6/20/10
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 11:59am
Rex Harrison did all his singing live on set; he refused to pre-record his songs so they had a mic configured that looked like a tie pin.

The 2005 Producers movie also did about 90% of their singing live on set. (And where Les Mis actors are singing along to a piano, Producers sang along to the full 50-piece orchestra)

However, the difference with those films and Les Mis is, those were all done in-studio. Les Mis is on-location so they are singing everything outside in the elements. So, in a way, it has never been done before - for better or worse.
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend
joined:8/13/09
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 01:53pm
I think the difference between what the others have done and what Les Mis is doing is that the other movies have mostly sung live on set to a pre-recorded orchestra, so they were still fairly locked in in terms of tempos and the choices they could make vocally. With Les Mis they have total control on set over tempos since they are singing to a live piano accompaniment.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 04:01pm
That's a fantastic, and well put together, montage! I guess I'd argue some cases--like Monty Clift's brief singing of Plaisir d'Amour in The Heiress where I wouldn't expect it to be pre-recorded (although, to be fair, there are similar instances that often *are* dubbed).
best12bars
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/05
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 04:57pm
The first part of Ruby Keeler singing the big "42nd Street" number is live, too. So is her tap that follows. Right after the tap, it switches to a pre-record and you can really tell the difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge8qktLangw

That was common in many of those early Busby Berkeley (Dick Powell and Ruby Keeler) musicals. Some of the singing was live and some was prerecorded. Usually (but not always) the solo sections were live.
best12bars
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/05
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 05:13pm
All of the songs in the first "talking" Best Picture "Broadway Melody" (1929) were recorded live, and the entire orchestra was live, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxWVH28E1KY

best12bars
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/05
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 05:39pm
Joan Crawford singing live in The Hollywood Revue of 1929.

Got a Feelin' For You
My Oh My
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/07
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/6/12 at 07:10pm
I know what prompted the evidence but even I think this is a tad...pedantic, coming from someone so pedantic, he can detect an orchestral change of a single instrument from a cassette boot of a show! =)

It's obviously a selling point and while many of Cammack's selling points in recent years have infuriated and made me want to throw things, this wouldn't qualify as one of them. Not saying anyone is angry, just saying there is really nothing to prove because everyone knows the moment they start saying it has never been done before, that they mean it has never been done to the extent that they are doing it for Les Mis. The live tempo control, the singing on set and in the elements, the intact nuances one gets uniquely from live theatre and a live theatre orchestra, etc...are all things that may have been done before but the process is being refined for Les Mis.
A-ron
Swing
joined:10/30/11
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/7/12 at 12:05am
Who can forget CopRock? I think that's the best modern example of on-set singing. The show might have turned out to be a joke, but the singers were amazing. Here's one of my favorite examples. Search YouTube and you'll find lots of examples. There was a user who had uploaded all the musical numbers from the show, but I can't seem to find his/her page anymore.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLm5Sn1cMyQ
jimmycurry01
Broadway Star
joined:5/28/05
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/7/12 at 01:07am
This is still the first time anyone has tried this like this. Singing a few of the songs live on set is not the same as shooting the entire film that way.
With that being said, I am sure there will still be some looping done in post, which means this will still not be all live.
Square Peg2
Understudy
joined:9/30/08
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/7/12 at 06:14am
If I recall correctly, I think a lot of the film Across The Universe was sung live on set.
HeyMrMusic
Broadway Legend
joined:5/16/04
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/7/12 at 06:17am
Meryl insisted on singing live in Mamma Mia. Of course, it was mixed and edited with studio takes later on, but lots of it is live.
marknyc
Leading Actor
joined:7/6/07
Singing On Set - Not Just for
Posted: 10/7/12 at 01:31pm
Yeah, I went back and forth on Miss Diana - what finally convinced me was one breath that was taken in multiple gasps that seemed very unlikely to have happened more than once. But I could be wrong.

90% of the clips are based on documented on-set singing (My Fair Lady") or clear evidence, such as people going off-mic ("Calamity Jane"). The rest are songs I was told about and which looked live to my eye.

I meant to include 42nd St. but forgot!

Who is this meant for? Me?

"I know what prompted the evidence but even I think this is a tad...pedantic, coming from someone so pedantic, he can detect an orchestral change of a single instrument from a cassette boot of a show!"

Updated On: 10/7/12 at 01:31 PM
marknyc
Leading Actor
joined:7/6/07
Singing On Set
Posted: 11/11/12 at 06:00pm
Thanks to my always helpful viewers, I was able to add 20 more examples of singers who sang on set, including Groucho Marx, Eddie Cantor, Fred Astaire, Danny Kaye, Al Jolson, Ruby Keeler, Alice Ghostly, Julie Andrews, Rita Moreno, and Barbara Harris.

This was a fun project, and I thank all those who helped!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZllWzMkD8

Mark







Updated On: 2/26/13 at 06:00 PM



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