I know that technically, it's none of our business, but that is, perhaps, the least amount of information to "finish" something. You'd think they could at least talk in some very specific generalities: a teen with no access to guns or travel....SOMETHING.
I wholeheartedly agree with Dramamamma . So, someone pulls a "stunt" of this magnitude and their name is not mentioned, no punishment, and the police do not mention why no arrest was made.
"I know that technically, it's none of our business"
Is that true? We the public has had our lives threatened but it's none of our business? I don't know about that.
I think this was our business, mine especially or anyone else living within a couple blocks of this theater or people who had tickets or was thinking of getting tickets to see this show. If anything, I hope the producers sue the individual or their parents civilly.
Unless the producers lost revenue over this, or had any outlay of money -- what is there to sue over?
If there is "something" that explains why no arrest (therefor, no punishment) was made, I want to know what that was -- but wanting to know doesn't make it my right.
"Tyson, you dumb-ass, what made you think this would sell more tickets? We're not even going to announce that it was a stunt, you'll just look even more like an @$$ in the wake of the Aurora murders."
Oh, I understand what you meant. I was just saying that when someone threatens mass killings somewhere in my neighborhood, I feel like it's my business.
This wasn't terribly high profile. (It certainly didn't make the news here in Boston -- to the best of my knowledge). Also: knowing the details doesn't change the end: nothing punitive happened.
WANTING to know is not the same as having the right to know. (And I really WANT to know.)
Are they not releasing info for concerns of backlash to the poster? The way the familis of those boys that bullied the bus monitor was totally uncalled for. How could anyone's behavior in harrassing those families be justified? At least the boys were, indeed, children -- but those harrassing the families were not. Is it someone already IN treatment for psychological issues? Putting info "out there" isn't going to help that possible situation.
Just like we have to trust in the police when they wanted the info, we have to trust in their decision to not publicize the outcome.
"WANTING to know is not the same as having the right to know."
Ya think? The difference between you and me is that I feel we have the right to know and you don't. vive la difference!
"This wasn't terribly high profile. (It certainly didn't make the news here in Boston -- to the best of my knowledge)."
I would guess because the threat was to NY theater. The news was high enough profile here to warrant lots of police and security in the theater district.
Just because there were police in the theatre district (aren't there always?) doesn't give us the RIGHT to know. Yes, personally, it would be interesting for me to know. I am curious, but it isn't my right to know what happened. Going somewhere public and feeling safe is a right, figuring out the name and what happened to the Twitter user, although interesting, is not a right of mine.
There's a big difference between want and need. Don't confuse the two.
Jane, no, I am not confused at all. I made the comment about the police because there are always police in Times Square and they have been there full force ever since 9/11.
What I was trying to say was that I disagreed with your notion that we have the right to know the whole store. I agree with dramamama and that there is a confusion of want to and right to in situations like this. You think that we have a right to know what is going on. However, I am allowed to respectfully disagree and say that I don't think that we do have that right, and that you would just like to know but dont' need to know.
Jane2 -- let me ask you this then: why do you think you have the RIGHT to the information? The police have determined that there is no credible threat, and therefore, no one was ever in any actual danger. So why is it your right to know the circumstances?
(I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, I just want to understand your thinking.)
Because someone murdered 12 people and wounded around 60 others in a theater. The tragedy was felt by the entire nation.
Another person threatens to do the same. The police deem that it isn't worthy of an arrest. As far as WE know, nothing at all was done about it. Maybe something was, but we'll never know. I think we deserve to know why nothing at all was done about it. I know that my own knowledge of law and order would be increased if I were educated as to this one point.
There are other crimes in which we, the public, are well informed as to what would be considered punishable by law concerning such crimes. What's the big secret why this act was ok?
"And now, when someone else feels like pulling a stunt like this, they'll know that nothing will happen, since we are not given any information. Great."
This. At least that's really all I hoped for, to have a message sent to anyone possibly considering a similar stunt. The only message sent is privacy is paramount, even if you threaten to blow a bunch of innocent people's heads off.
TheShuberts are trying to sell this stinking show for a few wks. Of course they don't want extended bad publicity. I'm sure there's more to this story, but not knowing doesn't necessarily mean nothing is being done, legally or otherwise behind the scenes. If we want the info, I guess TMZ could always bribe somebody for the inside scoop. On a larger scale, there are hundreds of foiled threats every wk in ny and elsewhere. If you knew everything, your life would be frozen with fear and anxiety.
I hope I can finally make this clear. I do not want to know EVERYTHING.. Why do people put words in others' mouths?
It is not unreasonable to wonder what would have made this threat punishable by law. I am asking about ONE act. ONE. Not EVERYTHING. What would have had to be done in order to make this a punishable crime? Yes, I would like to know that ONE thing.
When I was managing a theater, I learned about a law that was on the books that you would not believe. Having it explained to me by the police helped a great deal in the possible saving of a life, or injury to a person, and the possibility of law suits. It was extremely beneficial to a lot of people that I was educated in that specific law.
Anyway, I think that's all for me on this topic. Good evening.
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