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Breaking News out of Penn State tonight

redmustang
Broadway Star
joined:5/14/03
Just caught the end of this story on CNN. Emails uncovered between university president, vice-pres. and athletic director from 2001 discussing how to cover-up the Jerry Sandusky problem.
SNAFU
Broadway Legend
joined:4/20/04
oooooooooooooo Heads are gonna roll!
strummergirl
Broadway Legend
joined:12/8/09
Anything that further knocks those self-righteous fans and alumni further down a peg to eat their words that their beloved JoePa was simply misinformed and still infallible.

Now if this were to open an NCAA investigation, although unlikely, against the football program... Get your popcorn ready!
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
WE ARE PED STATE! WE ARE PED STATE!
"Gays in New York are very forgiving." -- Edina Monsoon
dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
Wow, this is about to get intersting. Of course, this will be treated so much differently than when the church just moves pedophile priests around. (With the exception of that very recent finding)
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Kad
Broadway Legend
joined:11/5/05
Good.

As if there were any doubt about how far up the chain of command this mess was.
Bettyboy72
Broadway Legend
joined:3/31/06
Good-may they all receive justice. BASTARDS!

All those poor traumatized men. I hope more men begin to talk about their abuse and get support, help and healing.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
singtopher
Broadway Legend
joined:12/28/05
I don't see this anywhere on CNN's website.
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
Addison D.
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/12
It's a little hearsay-ish at this point, as CNN does not actually have copies of the emails, but the contents as outlined are pretty specific, and certainly damning if true.





CNN 'Justice' post
You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...
Updated On: 6/30/12 at 06:36 AM
Addison D.
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/12
Freeh and the FBI still have not made the contents of the e-mails public, but the NYT is also reporting the story in slightly greater detail than CNN did Friday night.




"E-Mails Suggest Paterno Role in Silence on Sandusky"
You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...
Updated On: 7/1/12 at 06:11 PM
winston89
Broadway Legend
joined:6/18/06
As much as I'd like to see the NCAA do a full on investigation, I doubt that they are going to. After all, there were two lead players in this whole mess. One's dead, the other one is in jail for life. I feel like should the NCAA look into this mess, they aren't going to find anything that we don't already know at this point.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear" Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
Addison D.
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/12
There may well be lots more to be learned. I'm inclined to think that the stories of Sandusky pimping boys out to the power elite of the PSU board are apocryphal, but what if they're not? It would be --with due due respect to the victims--an incredible story.
You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...
Yawper
Broadway Legend
joined:9/13/04
The NCAA is already watching this investigation because there's evidence that Paterno's real involvement was helping football players get special treatment and escape standard university disciplinary actions.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/6/30/3128792/penn-state-scandal-ncaa-investigation
strummergirl
Broadway Legend
joined:12/8/09
That prostituting rumor came from a Philly radio airhead who said it on a Boston radio program known more for shock than substance.

And Winston, being dead did not stop the investigation of the Fab Five era in Michigan and the dead guy was the smoking gun of the whole operation.

And who is to say nothing new will be found out. Unearthing a paper trail is very possible..
wexy
Broadway Legend
joined:9/19/05
I was at the Yankee game filling up my water bottle yesterday and a little kid came out the bathroom with hid dad wearing a Penn State tee shirt.
It made me queasy.
'Take me out tonight where's there's music and there's people and they're young and alive.'
thetinymagic2
Broadway Legend
joined:8/12/07
on purpose??? yikes. Or a very, very black sense of humour - but why oh why??? who won?
wexy
Broadway Legend
joined:9/19/05
^ It was weird... Yanks won,it was too hot though.
'Take me out tonight where's there's music and there's people and they're young and alive.'
Addison D.
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/12
Freeh's report is out.

Is there anything more anyone would like to say?





NYT Article
You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...
Updated On: 7/12/12 at 08:33 PM
strummergirl
Broadway Legend
joined:12/8/09
Just a chilling anecdote from ex player LaVar Arrington who like many former players, stood by the program and Paterno. Then he found out he knew victim #4 and that Sandusky used Arrington's relationship with the boy to prey on the boy. Arrington changed his tune, though still coming to grips with the revelation, and wrote an op-Ed in the Washington Post on it.
NYadgal
Broadway Legend
joined:5/18/04
They have guards around the Joe Paterno statue on the Penn State campus to protect it.

Imagine if the school would have provided the innocent students and young men with such protection...

SHAMEFUL.

That statue needs to come down. Make a statement.

"Two drifters off to see the world... there's such a lot of world to see"
Updated On: 7/13/12 at 11:34 AM
Kad
Broadway Legend
joined:11/5/05
Of course, Paterno's defenders are still deluded into thinking the man is guileless.
SonofRobbieJ
Broadway Legend
joined:12/10/09
My guess is that the guarding of the statue is more about a visual display of 'Please don't riot here or we'll shoot you.'

But if anything deserved an angry mob, this would be it.
Addison D.
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/12
I'm all for pulling down the statue of Paterno--the thuggish boosterism of those Happy Valley football hooligans could definitely use a little tempering by way of a public backlash.

Having said that, though, I am leery of people's focus on 'football' as the culprit here. Football was the sacred cow this time. At this institution. But people have such a powerful ability to compartmentalize things within a comforting narrative, and then blithely carry on as atrocities repeat themselves. How many American Jews--who sanctimoniously intone "Never Again" at the mention of the Holocaust--lifted a finger to do something about Darfur?

People need to understand that sexual predators can be found anywhere and that childhood sexual abuse is incredibly, sickeningly common. Don't kid yourself that now that the Priests and Sandusky have been exposed we are 'done with this sort of thing'.

The underlying villain in this story, in my opinion, isn't PSU's football program--it's the cowardice and laziness of the innumerable individual people who looked the other way.
You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...
SonofMammaMiaSam
Broadway Legend
joined:11/7/03
There's also the little problem of the Paterno Library, paid for by you know who.
Et al, lah ... Poof! Cheyenne Jackson ordered me a drink at Standing Ovations 2 waayyyyyy before Girly hung out with him in the dressing room and he tickled D2.
Kad
Broadway Legend
joined:11/5/05
While I do agree with you somewhat, Addison, the fact is that the idea of football/major athletics being untouchable and above the rules is widespread at many colleges.

The college athletic system is pretty screwed up in America right now. It's a system that chews kids up and spits them out, with only the college and coaches reaping the benefits.
SonofRobbieJ
Broadway Legend
joined:12/10/09
Though I agree with you in the broader outline of your thesis, Addison, I think you have to ask 'Why?' when it comes to people looking the other way. It's all about self-preservation of a sort. And when an organization is led by someone perceived to be infallible in some way, then rot will ALWAYS happen. ALWAYS.

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