"I think Glee is way too sharp, smart, witty, clever and emotionally confronting for the masses." - Dave19 -
"What's next? Snow Black and the 7 Swaggers? Shasquirta and the Beast? 101 Weavematians?
Willis in Ghettoland?" - Dave19, in reference to the new ANNIE remake.
Who on earth TALKS like the people in these e-mails? They all sound crazy. Why don't they talk like real people, in normal sentences with structure and meaning, instead of rambling like they're stoned? Is becoming a "star" contingent on incoherency?
I don't know what else to say. Whatever the situation it's unfortunate for the production, but the whole thing is bizarre.
Don't be an ass, New, or any more of an ass than you already are.
Though maybe I should have asked the question more astutely. What gives you people a reason to be so mean toward him? What has he done to merit it. No one is calling out Alec Baldwin, who has said some HEINOUS things in the past, over this. You're just assuming this boy is a "douche" for maybe caring too much? Has he done things previous to this worse than Baldwin that I don't know of? His soul kinda shown through on his audition tape, and it moved me. I can't imagine someone like that deserving the awful things that are being said about him in this thread.
If I were Dan Sullivan, I'd be really upset that people now know that my email handle is "sullyboy".
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
Much like the LIPS TOGETHER mess, there seems to be part of the story missing here. (In that case, we later learned the personal strain Mullally was under with her mother sick, which at least colored her decision to leave the project.) Simply, if it were truly Sullivan doubting his "choices" and the producers pushing to fire him, like the NYTimes article suggests, then why would Sullivan be referring to a "disagreeable" situation and acknowledge he and Alec are "incompatible"?
I don't think it's fair to jump to conclusions that it's either of the actor's faults at this point, especially when they both seem to not have ill-will to one another. I will say, though, it certainly seems like there was at least one altercation between the two in rehearsals. But that happens all the time in rehearsal, even when the two actors aren't as famously feisty as these two.
I do wonder if they'll be able to bring in an actor with anywhere near the same level of recognition given this very public split.
All accounts I've heard about Shia are that he's difficult to work with. I know he's said some pretty nasty things in public about costars (Megan Fox comes to mind). He apparently filmed almost the entirety of Lawless drunk or hungover. On that set, he allegedly knocked out Tom Hardy and was so terrible to Mia Wasikowska that she very nearly quit and had to be begged to stay. He also got pretty upset with Jessica Chastain during an interview because of her friendship with Tom Hardy. It wouldn't surprise me if he and Baldwin did not get along, but I honestly doubt that Baldwin is purely the one to blame. Which I think is why almost everyone is focusing on the LaBeouf angle.
Mr. Foster, who had previously auditioned for the role – the malevolent and emotionally unstable Treat – has never been in a play as a professional actor before, nor has he worked with Mr. Baldwin. Mr. Foster will start rehearsals on Friday.
Am I the only one struck by this paragraph?
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
That was quick and unceremonious, and I'm sure the producers love it that way. And New York audiences get to discover a talented newcomer. It should be fun.
Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine, A man's a man for a' that.
Words that confuse censors:Fecund,penal,taint, titmouse, cockatoo,coccyx, ballcock, cockeye, prickly,kumquat, titter,cunning linguist, insertion, gobble, guzzle, swallow, manhole, rimshot,ramrod,come, fallacious, lugubrious,rectify,Uranus, angina, paradiddle,spotted dick,dictum, frock,cunctation, engorge,turgid,stiff, bush, uvula, crapulence, masticate, Dick Butkus, gherkin and of course the always bewildering lickety split.
As you can see, context is every thing.
Chuck Lorre
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"Sexarama, Hexarama, Queeriosis, Feariosis!" Alec Baldwin
I'm sorry, I find it difficult to defend someone who is acting like a 2 year old on TWITTER of all things...pick whatever cliche metaphor you want, he's pouring gasoline on a fire. It is SO inappropriate, unprofessional, and immature to post private emails like that. He's making it worse for himself. I don't doubt he's capable of doing the role, but this is just about...I don't know, basic human decency? I'm betting this isn't making things very cozy for the people involved in those email exchanges, either.
Looks like Shia's email to Baldwin was almost 100% plagiarized from an Esquire article. Link
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
A real man is too impatient to see what's directly in front of him!
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
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Posted: 2/21/13 at 10:35am