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CarlosAlberto
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/10
evita
Posted: 12/28/12 at 07:01am
They weren't a temporary tribute. They are still there and now she's all over your countries 100 dollar note.
I don't care who's wrong or right. I don't really want to fight no more. It's time for letting go.
songanddanceman2
Broadway Legend
joined:8/31/06
evita
Posted: 12/28/12 at 09:26am
Wait comments under clips on You Tube thought that an all singing all dancing ALW musical was not historically correct? Im shocked.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend
joined:4/29/05
evita
Posted: 12/28/12 at 10:47am
"I still don't hear much of a difference with her voice before and after the "vocal training". It's like Helena Bonham Carter's voice in Sweeney. She took lessons for a year, 2 years, and THAT'S the end result?"

Did anyone ever hear Madonna (without studio restructuring) or Bonham Carter before they had vocal training? One needs a frame of reference to judge any possible improvement.
Luscious
Broadway Legend
joined:10/20/05
evita
Posted: 12/29/12 at 08:58am
Madonna was perfect. And it's a better film adaptation of a stage musical than Les Miserables. Period. End of story.
"I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity."
CarlosAlberto
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/10
evita
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:20am
IMO, Madonna belongs right up there with Russell Crowe as one of the most miscast leads in a movie musical. Neither did justice to the scores they were singing but at least Crowe CAN act, Madonna has proven time and time again she has no business acting.
I don't care who's wrong or right. I don't really want to fight no more. It's time for letting go.
songanddanceman2
Broadway Legend
joined:8/31/06
evita
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:26am
Even as a huge Madonna fan i have to admit that her acting is not the best at all (though i did like her in Susan, Dick Tracey and Dangerous Game) however i thought she did a wonderful job in Evita acting and vocal. Yes some of the songs were adjusted for her range but i personally thought she did a great job. As did the Golden Globes and most of the critics
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend
joined:8/13/09
evita
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:19am
"Did anyone ever hear Madonna (without studio restructuring) or Bonham Carter before they had vocal training? One needs a frame of reference to judge any possible improvement."

Bonham Carter did sing a bit in The Corpse Bride, which was pre-Sweeney. She's a bit breathy there as well without a whole lot of power, which works quite well for the song and character in that movie. Obviously that one song she sings there is a whole lot simpler than the score to Sweeney, but I don't notice a whole lot of difference between her vocals on the two.
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My Oh My
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/07
evita
Posted: 12/30/12 at 02:02am
Madonna improved dramatically for Evita.

I personally don't take much issue with her singing in that film. It's her dead eyes that translate to bad acting is what I didn't like.

But she improved so much, when I first heard "You'll See," I couldn't believe it was her.

She added a vibrato, a controlled one. Something she lacked before when she sang like Minnie Mouse. Her pitch was also much more in control and not all over the place as heard on her many early pop records. The worst one being "Oh, Father."

"Oh, Madonna, you can't sing in tune. Ballads aren't your strongest point, girl" is what a little boy me thought back in the day.

I think she sounds excellent in "Rainbow High," despite her using head voice at the top notes. She really digs into it. Her best number in Evita is the waltz between Eva and Che. Pure musical theatre. She sings it with the needed bite and vocal grit to make it really shine. She is capable, but her problem is she often simply fails to rise to the occasion.
Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.

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