I can't comment too much, as I only saw about 10 minutes of the show because the Cab Calloway documentary on PBS (American Masters) was much more interesting. It didn't seem like much was happening in the show, though, and it caught my interest only in the sense of--Hey, there's Ann Harada! Hey, there's Wesley Taylor! Hey, there's Nick Jonas doing a tepid cover of a Michael Buble song. And Hey, didn't Glee do Rumour Has It a few weeks ago?
Coach Bob knew it all along: you've got to get obsessed and stay obsessed. You have to keep passing the open windows. (John Irving, The Hotel New Hampshire)
The show implied that most of them were Ivys friends too, two were even the friends we saw her with in the pilot and the third episode. So of course if someone causes your friend grief you aren't going to be too welcoming towards them. Her inability to blend could also cause more than a little frustration but hey that's just me.
They built up a bit to Ivys hatred last episode in that she's scared she only got the part because she slept with Derek, So when the other girls back, and making her presence known as much as she is that is very troubling.
Anjelica Houston has to stop at nothing otherwise soon she won't have her money or her career she's heavily invested in this project getting off the ground.
I liked it but I can't analyze the show too much. But it's not like Glee where the plot holes/mistakes just constantly leap out at me and I can't ignore them.
I think the next episode looks awesome, so I am excited.
Btw, I do agree that if they wanted us to think that Karen is the Next Big Thing who is Even Better than Broadway Veterans, they should not have cast Kat McPhee. Her dancing was a mess.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
concerning Wesley's "overdoing it" - the directors and producers are ok with what he's doing, in fact that's now he's being directed, so don't blame him.
How have people gotten to episode 4 still hoping that there'll be any semblence of reality or truth?? It's trashy, pulpy fun. Let go and let God, bitches!
I'm looking forward to a good ole fashion hair-pulling, nipple- pinching girl fight between McPhee and Hilty where they fall into the fountain at Lincoln Center.
I am glad that there was not another ratings and viewership drop like the last two weeks, and it's great that both things increased. When the final numbers are posted, there's a chance that its 18-49 rating could be adjusted even more.
And for those still skeptical about the show I really do think she should at least watch next week's episode. It really looks like that is when the show's ture potential and drama are shown.
Sorry for double posting, but TV By Numbers is saying that if last night was any indication of the show's ratings leveling off, then the show is more likely to renewed than cancelled.
That article doesn't seem to take into account though the cost of producing SMASH which has got to be more than the average series. I think the series will definitely play out its season, but viewership will have to increase for them to spring for a second season given its per episode budget.
Michael Bennett, you bring up a really good point about that production cost for the show. Let's say that it does get picked up again, do you think there is chance that it could be a show that only plays for the 2nd half of the season. This could be a chance for a network to follow the model of cable shows fewer episodes, but better production values.
How have people gotten to episode 4 still hoping that there'll be any semblence of reality or truth?? It's trashy, pulpy fun. Let go and let God, bitches!
Seriously. If anyone can accept Jack Davenport being saddled with the most cliched character imaginable, then they pretty much need to accept any old-school stereotypical melodramatic nonsense. Sort of like saying, "I love everything about the script except how it's written."
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
I know I brought this up last week and I want to breiefly bring up again. Michael Bennett, judging by what you said, it seems that 'Smash' definetley has a larger budget than 'Parenthood', which is a one hour comedy-drama on NBC that has never been big with ratings but is still on the air.
Well, NBC has made a big investment in SMASH's first season; but no, I can't imagine any network, struggling or not, would renew a series with lackluster ratings (and limited prestige/awards potential) that costs double what a simple situation comedy does.
In other words, if the ratings don't justify the added expense of doing a big budget musical television series, NBC isn't going to invest in a second season to keep it going. The numbers will definitely have to pick up for the show to be renewed next year.
I also enjoyed this episode quite a lot. The show is cheesy and trashy sure but this episode was actually fun and dramatic..the last two episodes were just boring.
Michael Bennett Tvbythenumbers takes in to account everything, it's one of the top TV ratings sites around and is 99 percent of the time right with its renew/cancel ratio. What you also have to remember that for NBC Smash is doing fine for them. The network barely manages to get its non reality shows above a 2.0 demo, If Smash levels off now and stays where it is it makes more financial sense for them to stick with a series then scrap it and start again with a new pilot. Each network wants to keep shows on the air to get to the 88 episodes so it can be sold in to syndication, NBC more than anybody needs that to happen.
NBC Most talked about and popular non reality shows like 30 Rock barely get a 1.7 demo.
PS Smash was adjusted down this week to a 2.3 in the final ratings meaning it stayed even with last week. With a far stronger episode this week i expect it to level off now.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
It would nonetheless cost NBC a fortune to get SMASH to 88 episodes-there are relatively few weekly tv series that have cost as much as it does per episode that have made it to syndication-- I still maintain they won't easily renew a shoe that costs twice as much as 30 Rock to produce if it only levels out with less than one point above it in the ratings.
We'll see what happens- the next few episodes are Definitely the most likely to be talked about- and will Be the series' best chance at solidifying and building better word of mouth.
Yes, MassOfMen, that is certainly a better suggestion!
Random Person -- how did Karen wrong her? Anyone that competes with you has done you wrong? There is no reason for the animosity. And even if IVY thinks that way, ALL of her friends are that childish? It just doesn't wash with me.
I like Wes Taylor, too.
Lastly, I hate that Tom is such a pushover with everthing (the assistant, the new date...) but is so adamant about his view on the directer.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
'Grief' is not the same as being wronged. Grief in this case would a lot of worry and frustration. This can turn to anger. We've also Ivy is majorly insecure and always seeking some form of validation, the last thing she would want is someone to try to take it away from her. Validation would be the role of Marilyn and her relationship. Both of which she knows she could lose at a moments notice. So of course she's a little pissed off at karens being there. That's why she's getting karen out of things, she's worried that Karen will take those things away from her. As her friends do care for Ivy they would be a lot less friendly to Karen than one would to someone you meet off the street.
I was at the deli, torn between a hot ham and cheese and a turkey on rye. Then I thought, "You know, Marilyn once ate a turkey on rye." I knew then it was fate.
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