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CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center

Matt Rogers
Leading Actor
joined:10/4/04
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 11:26am
Can someone who has seen it comment on the staging? I thought thsi was just to be a concert performance, and I pictured them standing at music stands with scripts. Apparently that is not the case. Is it a full production? Is there scenery? Costumes? Thanks for any info.
Kelly2
Broadway Legend
joined:1/5/07
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 11:41am
No, it is almost fully staged. Costumes, wigs, everyone is off-book. There are scenic elements but no scene changes. Beyond that, though, it is really very close to being fully staged.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 01:03pm
"What are the script adaptations? Just cuts, or rewrites? I always wondered about this one- it seems as the years go by the "Billy isn't abusive, just misunderstood" plot rings hollower and hollower."

Hytner's staging certainly got away with it, when I saw it. I think even with the original script,if you perceive the message to be "Billy isn't abusive justmisundeerstood" you are seeing a terrible production. Yes the original script is uncomfortable to play, particularly as time goes by (though I suspect it always was--then again the 60s had a pop hit called He Hit Me and it Felt Like a Kiss, so who knows,) but still I don't think there ever was a defence implied that "Hey Billy isn't abusive, he's just misunderstood".

But I'm also curious about the "adaptation"for this.
darquegk
Broadway Legend
joined:2/5/09
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 01:41pm
I didn't mean that Billy WAS misunderstood, more that he is perceived as such by the characters in the play. Billy is an inarticulate, immature man who resorts to brute force when nothing else can solve his problems. That sort of character wasn't as immediately demonized in the forties and fifties as it is today.

Perhaps the trouble is simply that Billy's "redemption," in which he cannot entirely overcome his tendency to use his fists instead of his heart, is played gradually as that- a redemption. The fact that he opens up and speaks words of love from his heart doesn't quite seem to make up for, or redeem, the fact that he occasionally beat his wife and came very close to beating his daughter- as a ghost, no less. It seems that the show knows Billy has a tragic flaw, but does not recognize what that flaw is. Perhaps it was simply "of its time," but as the flap over "Edwin Drood" showed (and in the guise of farce, at that), sometimes the change in sensibilities over time makes it harder to stomach certain relics and attitudes of the past, even when one dismisses it as "a different time."
DivaBrigader
Leading Actor
joined:12/13/04
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 01:59pm
Rush tix up for tonight for $25. So looks like 2pm is the magic hour.
everythingISpossible
Chorus Member
joined:7/22/10
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 02:04pm
I walked up to the Box Office at 1pm and got a single orchestra for tonight for $25 with my very old student ID. I had called this morning and spoke with someone who said they were selling them. Worth giving a call and stopping by. I couldn't be more excited to see it tonight!
Aryn007
Chorus Member
joined:3/24/04
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:03pm
Thanks for this heads up, Broadwayworld.com users! Purchased my ticket online can't wait for tonight!
macnyc
Broadway Star
joined:7/26/08
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:17pm
How do you get the discount tickets online? I'm not seeing anything under $95 for tonight's performance.
givesmevoice
Broadway Legend
joined:12/2/07
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:18pm
You choose your seats and then when you're ready to check out, there's a place at the bottom of the screen to enter the code RUSH.
macnyc
Broadway Star
joined:7/26/08
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:23pm
Thanks for the info! I'm sorry I'm so dense today, but if I enter the RUSH code, do I need to show student ID? I'm not a student, so that's out.
broadwaydevil
Broadway Legend
joined:2/16/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:28pm
Yes, it's unfortunately for students only. I believe they have also been offering other discounts price at $45 but I can't verify that.
everythingISpossible
Chorus Member
joined:7/22/10
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 03:45pm
Fell down a youtube rabbit hole in anticipation of the concert and I found this montage from the Lincoln Center Theater revival. So many great memories of that production, can't wait to create some new ones tonight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skz2mdGr4Jw
shrekster224
Broadway Legend
joined:1/27/10
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 04:10pm
So does anyone have a full cast list?
Kelly2
Broadway Legend
joined:1/5/07
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 05:06pm
Just called about a ticket for a friend about an hour ago, got a great discount orchestra seat! The woman at the box office was super helpful and had tons of info about all the various discounts/rush prices, so if you're confused or pondering, I suggest just giving them a call.

SERIOUSLY DON'T MISS THIS.
Dollypop
Broadway Legend
joined:5/15/03
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 05:59pm
This sounds like a magnificent production. However, the memory of the brilliant Goodspeed production is far too fresh in my mind to see this one. (I saw it several times)
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 06:12pm
Tenorboyo, it's scheduled for April 26, though different PBS stations tend to broadcast it on different dates--but should be that week. Unfortunately often when they do full shows, they don't allow viewing of them online, but this may be an exception since more and more of thei recent shows are available that way.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 06:21pm
Darque--I see your point, but, while I agree with it more nowthat you've explained it, I don't fully. I'm not sure the characters do see him as misunderstood--even Julie, and if he weren't dead but really alive in the ending when Julie says her lines, I'm not sure she would, well say those lines. But that's problematic I guess so--and given the time, maybe she would've. (I'm arguing in circles.)

I do think the Hytner staging managed to subtly get around this, however, so it's not impossible to do. (My only real complaint with that staging is cutting Highest Judge of All--I know it was done "in one" originally and is often cut, and perhaps some feel makes Billy too sympathetic as well--though I also know many simply dislike the song.)

The movie of course manages to make this worse--simply by sentimentalizing the story (even with small things, like opening in Heaven and doing it as a flashback, or, due to the movie code, making Billy's death an accident instead of a suicide,) so the film, which some people take as *being* Carousel does the work no favours.

Maybe they can just hire Douglas Carter Beane to rewrite it--or simply restore the original ending of Liliom and have Billy go to Hell at the end. :P
Kelly2
Broadway Legend
joined:1/5/07
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 09:40pm
Isherwood's review of the production, I think we can call this one a big fat rave.

"From top to bottom this is as gorgeously sung a production of this sublime 1945 Broadway musical as you are ever likely to hear..."


NY Times Review
Updated On: 2/28/13 at 09:40 PM
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 09:51pm
Can't wait to see it!

So, any word from anyone about how exactly the book was "adapted?"
ACL2006
Broadway Legend
joined:2/11/06
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 09:59pm
Please move this to Broadway for the 2013-2014 season. Replace anyone who's not available, I just really want to this.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:09pm
But if they do, please choreograph the Carousel Waltz.
vf
Understudy
joined:11/10/10
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:22pm
Seems like NYTimes review is not exactly a big fat rave since he had a reservation about Gunn's performance:

"Mr. Gunn seems to me a more natural Billy Budd — the doomed innocent in the Benjamin Britten opera from the Herman Melville novel — than a Billy Bigelow. Try though he does to act the sullen tough, he cannot quite keep his beaming wholesomeness in check (even wearing a black leather vest). The measure of any Billy Bigelow must be taken in the celebrated “Soliloquy,” and while Mr. Gunn sings it with impressive musical authority, I found his interpretation lacking in emotional dynamics. It felt studied instead of spontaneous, so we are not drawn into Billy’s conflicts as fully as we might be. Oddly — and fortunately — the ferocity that was missing here was in full display in Billy’s second-act solo, “The Highest Judge of All,” in which the now-dead Billy demands in the hereafter the chance he feels he was never granted in life."
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:25pm
OK maybe not a big fat rave, but I'd still call it a rave--maybe even a big rave.
vf
Understudy
joined:11/10/10
Trish2
Broadway Star
joined:8/20/06
CAROUSEL at Lincoln Center
Posted: 2/28/13 at 10:32pm
...and if it should be revived, please hire a more efficient and inventive choreographer than Warren Carlyle ! He's been overrated and overused. He's clearly out of his league with Ballet dancers such as Tiler Peck And Robert Fairchild. The dances need to be both stunning and dramatically effective. Carlyle is all wrong !

"and the excellent John Cullum, in the dual roles of the Starkeeper and Dr. Seldon, who presides over the high school graduation of Julie and Billy’s daughter, Louise (played by the thoroughly enchanting Tiler Peck, a principal dancer with New York City Ballet).

Paired opposite Robert Fairchild, another terrific principal dancer from the same company, Ms. Peck all but stops the show with her radiant performance in the second-act ballet, choreographed skillfully if somewhat generically by Warren Carlyle."

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