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Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 18:29:30


Don't know if anyone knew this but they're not the only ones who can can do musicals. Hollywood isn't a small town community theater.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-10 18:42:55


You mean that girl who takes all the roles that Rachel McAdams turns down?

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by dramamama611 2013-01-10 18:48:28


Right, McAdams is their first choice.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-10 18:50:22


And deservingly so.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by chewy5000 2013-01-10 19:05:42


Amen, sister.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Matt Rogers 2013-01-10 19:25:04


What a jerk, to start such a thread the day they both got Oscar norms.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jay Lerner-Z 2013-01-10 19:28:11


Yeah, they're in tears - you ruined their big day.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Matt Rogers 2013-01-10 19:29:58


No of course he didn't. He just added another JERK credit to his ever growing resume.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:35:32


Thanks, Matt!

I wish I could be an ever positive presence on here like you are. Oh, wait...

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by choitoy 2013-01-10 19:42:28


Can we put a moratorium on Meryl also? I know she's a great actress, and she's been wonderful in everything she's been cast in, but right now her name seems to be the first name to pop up for female characters of a certain age for everything. Musicals, straight plays, movie musicals, movie adaptations of plays, etc.

Same thing for African-American female leads in movie musicals. think Queen Latifah/Dana Owens has played them all (though I'm a little surprised she didn't pop up in "Dreamgirls" somewhere.)

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:45:42


So by "African-American female leads in movie musicals", you're just talking about Queen Latifah?

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-10 19:48:27


You mean Queen Latifah/Dana Owens.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:49:27


Or Q'Ldo as she likes to go by.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-10 19:51:05


I do agree that Meryl Streep/Mary Louise Streep has done enough musicals.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-10 19:51:18


Too late as I hear both Anne and Hugh are in talks for a big screen remake of THE KING & I with Samantha Barks and Eddie Redmayne as Tuptim and Lun-Tha respectively. Helena Bonham Carter has been tapped to essay the role of "Lady Thiang", Russell Crowe is the "Kralahome", Daniel Huttlestone will be "Louis Leonowens".

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:53:07


Helena Bonham-Carter WAS kind of born to play that role though, Carlos.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-10 19:55:25


^ Yeah, I totally see her in the role. Imagine her rendition of "Something Wonderful" would have to be heard to be believed. I live.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:57:13


And directed by her husband, the musical would be epic and FINALLY show the dark side of the story that's sorely been lacking in every version so far.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-10 19:57:32


Oh and stop being such a JERK Jordan!!

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-10 19:59:52


You cut me, sir.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-01-10 22:55:15


I really do think that Jackman would be great as the Baker in 'Into the Woods' though.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by kieranbec 2013-01-10 23:51:33


Under no circumstance should he go anywhere near that project. I think he is very talented but he is not right for any of the roles in Into the Woods. The same goes for Neil Patrick Harris.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by chewy5000 2013-01-11 01:09:31


He would be better as Cinderella's Father.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Visceral_Fella 2013-01-11 01:16:07


In all seriousness that would be a funny cameo for him.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by tazber 2013-01-11 06:32:52


I'm going to expand this list to include all the recent actors who simply have no business being in musicals:

Johnny Depp
Helena Bonham Carter
Daniel Day Lewis
Dame Judi Dench
Marion Cotillard
Nicole Kidman
Pierce Brosnan
Amanda Seyfreid
Michelle Pfiefer
Antonio Banderas

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 06:35:52


But see Hollywood IS a community theatre. It just pays really well.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by PalJoey 2013-01-11 07:52:20


If Hugh Jackman played the King in The King and I, would he have to shave his chest?



Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Rudy2 2013-01-11 08:13:27


I too agree that Rachel McAdams has a greater range than Anne Hathaway. Her career choices, especially from a critical point of view, have not been as smart.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-11 08:19:15


...But really, back to Hugh Jackman's chest...

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 08:33:46


I think Hugh Jackman's chest should play Bali Ha'i.

Or the title role in The Sound of Music.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by chewy5000 2013-01-11 08:47:39


He could do Sunset Boulevard again - as Mr. Sheldrake.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by After Eight 2013-01-11 08:51:58


Dame Judi Dench - Olivier Award, A Little Night Music

Antonio Banderas - Fine performance, Tony nomination, Nine revival.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by sally1112 2013-01-11 09:18:13


Good example of this board at its worst.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by tazber 2013-01-11 09:20:17


Awards do not good singers make.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by After Eight 2013-01-11 10:23:23


Great performances in musicals don't always require great singers:

Rex Harrison, Yul Brynner, Richard Burton, Lauren Bacall...

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by finebydesign 2013-01-11 10:28:56


What about Nicole Kidman!?

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 10:31:10


Honestly, I think Hugh deserved his Oscar nomination, and I think Anne deserves to win and probably will.

I don't consider either one of them great singers, but I don't consider Carol Channing, Yul Brynner, Rex Harrison, Bert Lahr, Ray Bolger, Zero Mostel, or Gene Wilder great singers either. There are many cases in musical theatre and in musical films where it's entirely beside the point.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-11 10:42:47


Right but back in the 50s/60s, the same 3 people weren't used and suggested for EVERY.SINGLE. MUSICAL., probably because of people like Marni Nixon.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 10:43:52


Um...I think Anne Hathaway is actually a pretty good singer. Do you think singing the role of Lili successfully, even if only for 6 or so performances, is easy? I had a friend who is very well train hemorrhage in the middle of a performance of CARNIVAL. Hathaway's not Audra, but I think she's pretty good.

And I second After Eight in removing Dame Judy Dench and Banderas from the no-sing list. Dench is considered the definitive Sally Bowles by many, and her Desiree is renowned. Banderas was startling good in NINE, and he was pretty terrific in that bore of a film, EVITA.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by newintown 2013-01-11 11:24:21


" I had a friend who is very well train hemorrhage in the middle of a performance of CARNIVAL."

Where's the You Tube link?

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 11:26:58


God I wish! This was in the days before such technology! And it wasn't like SCANNERS! It was towards the end of the show, and she just tasted blood in the back of her throat. She took a bit of a rest thereafter.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by newintown 2013-01-11 11:30:25


Drat. I was hoping for blood-drenched puppets and children screaming. Like Bil Baird meets Carrie.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 11:42:17


Well...my Marco the Magnificent was badly danced, so there was that!

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by tazber 2013-01-11 12:11:55


I guess it's hit and miss with me and non-singers.

Yul Brynner and Lauren Bacall are both fantastic and I love them on their respective recordings.

Rex Harrison however annoys me to no end. Obviously he's revered and gave amazing performances but I just can't stand that talk-sing thing he does.

I put Dench on the list based strictly on her warbling in Nine.

She may have been awesome when she was younger in Cabaret, but what she did in Nine was really just awful. And I love her to pieces as an actress.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 12:35:55


Oh come now, taz. Does anyone really need to be singled out for NINE??? That was perhaps the biggest cinematic disaster I've encountered in a very long time.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by doodlenyc 2013-01-11 12:45:08


Unless they plan on making a film adaptation of the Disney Snow White, Seyfried needs to shut the f**k up.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by PalJoey 2013-01-11 13:59:46


...Dame Judy Dench...

It's Judi with an "i" not Judy with a "y" cause Judy with a "y" goes "The night is bitter, the stars have lost their glitter..."

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 14:01:26


I KNEW it was! And I knew it when I typed it. And then got distracted at work and hit post. Ugh.

Fucking lawyers.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Reginald Tresilian 2013-01-11 14:53:01


Props to PJ for showing it's possible to correct someone, be clever, and still not be a d*ck.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 14:59:52


Do you think singing the role of Lili successfully, even if only for 6 or so performances, is easy?

Not at all. I also think Anne is well trained and so is Hugh. I don't care for either of them as singers, though. It's taste, not capability. I'm not a fan of their voices, but I still think both are good "musical" actors.

Russell Crowe can be a better actor than both of them in non-singing roles, but apparently the minute he opens his mouth to sing, he completely forgets how to act.

Hugh and Anne are good musical actors, Russell is not.

But I wouldn't listen to any of them warbling on the radio, nor do I long for a recording of Zero Mostel or Bert Lahr singing "White Christmas."

(Well, okay, maybe Bert Lahr.)

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 15:02:03


^ Well..that's fine. I have friends who HATE Audra McDonald's voice an cannot understand how I have a Pandora channel dedicated to her.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by kieranbec 2013-01-11 15:14:18


I think that Anne Hathaway is great. So is Jackman. Also, Marion Cotillard should be removed from the list. Her performance was one of the standouts in Nine. Also Kidman can sing well, but people shouldn't cast her in roles outside of her solid alto range.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 15:19:59


Audra is a goddess, but I still didn't like her "Juilliard sound" as Sarah in Ragtime. I much preferred LaChanze in that particular role.

But Audra is an incredible actor/singer.

I really enjoyed Hugh Jackman as Curly in Oklahoma!, even though I'm not a fan of his voice. His acting and his interpretation of the character were terrific, and that won me over completely.

I wouldn't mind seeing Anne, Hugh, Marion, or Nicole in other movie musicals, because they can all act (well) and sing (well enough) at the same time.

"Sounds crazy, no? But here in our little village of Hollywood ..."

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-11 15:21:47


"Audra is a goddess, but I still didn't like her "Juilliard sound" as Sarah in Ragtime. I much preferred LaChanze in that particular role."

HOW. DARE. YOU.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 15:23:02


I dare, I dare!

Audra was the "after" Eliza Doolittle instead of the "before."

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-01-11 15:24:21


I repeat, sir - HOW. DARE. YOU.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-11 15:24:40


I saw LaChanze (but not Audra...though I did see video footage of her doing Daddy's Son).

I could see LaChanze work REEEEEEEAL hard to make the sounds she was making.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by ComingUpRoses2 2013-01-11 21:08:51


I really love Anne's voice. Thought Hugh did ok until "Bring Him Home." They should have lowered the keys for that.

I might not want to buy their albums, but I think there's more to musical theatre or movie musicals than a nice voice. I'd rather have someone with musicality and a passable voice than someone with a phenomenal voice and no personality or acting ability. That's one thing I can't stand these days on Broadway - everybody has the same voice. It's too pure and pop-ish. There are very few true personalities that stand out. Give me someone with a little character any day of the week.

Now, this is not to say that I want Nicole Kidman or Marion Cotillard to play Evita or something (we all know she could never handle it, but neither could Madonna if we're being honest), but I know she'd act the hell out of Desiree or a role of that nature. You still have to cast them appropriately.

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by best12bars 2013-01-11 21:58:15


I might not want to buy their albums, but I think there's more to musical theatre or movie musicals than a nice voice.

Exactly my point.

I'll go even further. This movie would not be a hit if it weren't for the cinematography that everybody says "sucks" around here.

You're all wrong. HOW DARE YOU. (That's for Jordy.)

The lyrics to Les Miz SUCK. They are the most pedantic, demonstrative lyrics ever written by an English-speaking theatre critic who translated in such literal terms from the original French.

They suck.

"Empty Chairs At Empty Tables" (really? we can SEE that.)

"On my own pretending he's beside me" (really? we can SEE that.)

All they do is tell you what you're looking at on the stage (or screen). They're stage directions, not lyrics.

So the only subtext and depth you could possibly get out of them is having them "sung well" on stage, and for film ... having a camera shoved into your face so we can watch your big, giant face add the subtext that is sorely missing from the material.

So I love the acting in this "Les Miz" movie (except for Crowe), and I love the cinematography that allows the acting to fill the screen, when the sucky lyrics can't do the job "on their own."

Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman for no more musicals, please
Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-01-11 22:11:52


Well we what did you expect from the guy who also supplied the lyrics to "Can Heironymus Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness?"