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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2012-12-13 15:51:25
Just thought I'd go ahead and start this since the original one is almost 100 pages...
Congrats on the Golden Globe nomination today!
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Posted by mmh1019 2012-12-13 16:13:45
while I still can't quite figure out HOW they got a nod for a VERY uneven first season, I am legitimately excited for season 2. EW just did a great interview with Josh Safran & I was encouraged that he seemed to have listened to what the fans didn't like & has really worked to tighten up the show. Andy Mientus, Jeremy Jordan, & Krysta Rodriguez seem to be fitting right into the ensemble, and they've brought in theatre actors who have a lot of TV experience.
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Posted by IvyLynn 2012-12-18 20:59:10
I watched the first two episodes (3 really since the first is 2 hours) and I can tell you already it has improved leaps and bounds from the first season. Of course Katharine McPhee still can't really act, Megan Hilty still outshines her almost embarrassingly so, and there are still moments in which I literally laugh out loud because of how unrealistic they are, but SO MUCH BETTER. The horrible characters are out and the new ones are great, especially Jeremy Jordan. In fact the one aspect I wasn't swooning over is JHud who was quite annoying and despite her Oscar-having status, is a terrible actress. But all in all cannot wait for the rest of the season. We just might get a season 3 yet!
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2012-12-18 21:09:24
I still hope Ivy gets hit by a bus this season since she's the most unlikable character ever in the history of television.
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Posted by luvtheEmcee 2012-12-19 12:19:38
I can't wait to see Smash turn into Gossip Girl! Though I doubt it can be worst than Season 1.
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Posted by strummergirl 2012-12-19 12:27:36
We know Ellis got fired but how are the other written-out characters referenced? I know Brian D'Arcy James still has a guest-role in the premiere but what about Leo and Michael Swift (especially if he was the DiMaggio in try-outs in Boston)? I know the new show-runner got credos with his work in Gossip Girl to write out unlikeable characters off the map (and also fan-servicing).
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2012-12-19 14:13:16
JHud who was quite annoying and despite her Oscar-having status, is a terrible actress.
THIS. I cringe every time I see her in anything!
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2012-12-19 14:20:31
The raw emotion Hudson displayed when opening Carrie's gift and seeing the purse she so desperately wanted was nothing short of astonishing in it's beauty.
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Posted by Plum 2012-12-19 14:57:14
mmh, Smash was a reasonable ratings success for a network that didn't have a whole lot of them, so yeah, it got renewed. NBC is healthier now, but it's still not nuts to be running a second season of this show. And I say this as an avowed hate-watcher. :P
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Posted by someone.else's.story2 2012-12-19 15:23:37
I, too, sadly find Jennifer Hudson consistently cringeworthy. I wanted to like her, but I just can't. I find her overwrought and annoying.
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Posted by theminutepast 2012-12-19 17:56:25
Smash Season 2 is premiering in January, right? Some posters are making it sound like shows have already aired.
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Posted by strummergirl 2012-12-19 18:09:25
I am pretty certain the episode allotment in Smash has a lot to do with cost with having original music, music rights royalties for Top 40 and standards, filming in New York and its specific spaces, etc.
People probably got episodes because people who work in the entertainment industry, especially TV critics, do get a lot of stuff in advance to build up buzz for the show. I think Mad Men is the only show that no longer sends out screeners in advanced (I believe the season premieres are the only exception and then it goes dry after that) because its creator got angry at critics revealing a specific plot-point of the show's major characters.
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Posted by IvyLynn 2012-12-19 20:09:58
^Yes I work in the media so I got a screener. Doesn't premiere til February 5th.
And to whoever asked, every character that was written off is explained (briefly).
Look, to the doubters out there,and I know there are MANY, just go into season 2 with an open mind. Is it groundbreaking television? I don't need to answer that. But it's fun. And the first few episodes are so much better than the last few (or like 12) were. I think season 2 will be a pleasant surprise.
But yeah, no. J Hud is horrible. Good thing her arc is only 3 eps!
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-07 13:16:16
Anyone seen any promotion for season 2? Besides a few commercials here and there I've seen nothing.
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-01-07 13:48:30
'I find her overwrought'
OVERwrought??? She's barely ever wrought! She has the emotional depth of a fetus that didn't make it to term.
That said, I still love her.
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Posted by jacobtsf 2013-01-07 14:00:58
West End star Julian Ovenden will guest star in the second season of SMASH, and according to TVLine, he will play another one of Marilyn's love interests. Ovenden's character 'Simon' will play JFK to Karen's Marilyn Monroe.
http://broadwayworld.com/article/Julian-Ovenden-to-Play-JFK-on-SMASH-Season-2-20130107
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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-01-07 14:05:23
You guys! Jennifer Hudson has had a wrought problem all her life and maybe sometimes she's still overwrought but she's joined wrought watchers and id REALLY working on keeping her wrought down.
PLEASE do not attack actresses over their wrought!
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Posted by emida 2013-01-07 14:15:21
Excited about season 2 (and it starts on my birthday!)
As much as I liked Jennifer Hudson in Dreamgirls, I don't care for her in anything else and I think she's a very average (if not bad) actress in anything I've seen her in after Dreamgirls...
I think I'm the most excited about Jeremy Jordan and Liza Minnelli!
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-07 14:32:03
Looks like they're expanding "Bombshell" to include JFK which I like!
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Posted by emida 2013-01-07 14:37:16
Can't wait to see what JFK singing looks like!
Have they finished filming all episodes? Are we getting a 15 episodes season like season 1?
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Posted by macnyc 2013-01-09 14:20:47
In case anyone is interested, Smash is filming today in front of the New York Theater Workshop on East 4th Street. It's great to see how the lobby is tricked out.
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-09 16:35:39
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-09 16:52:41
Im getting VERY excited for this season. With that poster and the other "leak" a few months back Im interested to see how it all plays out!
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Posted by winston89 2013-01-09 20:17:20
I am also very interested in seeing how this all plays out. However, I feel that there are too many characters that were in season one that aren't going to be in the second season. And, I am wondering how they are going to explain all of their departures. For example, I know that D'arcy James is no longer on the show. However, I felt that at the end of the first season his character's marital issues seemed to go away and his family looked as if they were going to be one big happy family again. Not sure how they are going to explain it but curious to see the results of it.
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-09 20:27:09
How interesting would it be if HIT LIST and BOMBSHELL were "nominated" against each other?
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Posted by broadwaybabytn 2013-01-09 21:53:00
Should Karen be above the title there?
Also, Jimmy Collins sounds like a whiskey or something.
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-01-09 22:15:09
HIT LIST is off-Bway and BOMBSHELL is on Bway, so maybe Drama Desk?
And also LIAISONS..
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-10 22:04:54
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d862d776705718374e7d35beb1a272e9/tumblr_mgfp9rAwRH1qci274o1_1280.png
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-14 10:45:15
Part 1 online now! I'm only 6 minutes in and I'm liking it.
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-01-14 11:08:40
funny they talk about st james for BOMBSHELL the a minute later you see BEAUTIFUL there
unless it is a very limited engagement...
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-14 11:10:25
Well he did mention her ending/leaving the show.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-14 11:14:13
Jennifer Hudson singing "On Broadway". I LOVE IT.
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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-01-14 11:39:34
Where?
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-01-14 11:45:31
nbc.com
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Posted by broadwayfreak4 2013-01-14 11:45:42
It's on NBC.com, Hulu, Amazon Instant Video, and I believe iTunes?
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-14 12:19:42
It is very good so far! I wish they still would've kept "Created by Theresa Rebeck" in the opening. Looking forward to hearing "Cut, Print, Moving On..." in its full version on the CD.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-01-14 12:27:58
Just finished part 1 of the 2-hour premiere and I loved it! I'm loving the changes to the show this season, and I'm also very happy to see them no longer making Ivy the "villain" of the show.
LOVED the songs too especially the new Bombshell number in the beginning.
P.S. I can't seem to find the episode to download on iTunes, does anybody have a link?
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-14 12:28:55
@kyl3 I looked on iTunes also, and it doesn't seem to be on there... maybe later today or something. The number from BEAUTIFUL looked really fun!
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Posted by slmlbl 2013-01-14 14:37:44
LOVED part one, looking forward to more and hope they keep the momentum going!
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Posted by broadwaybabywannabe2 2013-01-14 14:52:05
as someone who really did not like SMASH season1 i have to tell you this preview for season2 looks FABULOUS...and now that i finally got DVR i can record all the shows to not miss a single one...i am a huge fan NOW!
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Posted by ReggieonBway 2013-01-14 14:59:57
Jeremy Jordan sounded fabulous on Broadway, Here I Come.
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Posted by Amalia Balash 2013-01-14 15:14:56
At this point in the show, am I as a viewer supposed to admire or sympathize or empathize with Karen Cartwright? Because I still don't. Last season I felt I was supposed to see her character as having star potential and overcoming the odds to get her big break. Didn't feel any of that then, still not feeling it now. I like the original song numbers and want to give the show another chance, but I'm hoping there's a lot less of Karen the Muse and Superstar in the second season.
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Posted by LegallyBroadway2 2013-01-14 15:37:12
Loved it. Great suprise to wake up and be able to watch it.
The only thing I found odd, was Tom's comment about being single.
If my boyfriend went on tour, I hope we wouldn't break up... I wouldn't expect that of us.. Just intresting that Tom thinks they'd split. Maybe he doesn't like long distance.
Idk
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Posted by Matteo 2013-01-14 15:53:51
Even as a huge fan of the first season, the preview of the season opener beyond exceeded my expectations. I think they are definitely going in the right direction with this show, and I can only see it getting better from here! It definitely seems like they looked at all of their weak points and are making an honest effort at correcting them.
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Posted by broadwaybabywannabe2 2013-01-14 18:50:05
the only question i have after watching the preview is...do Broadway-bound shows open out of town without securing a Broadway Theatre first?...that doesn't sound logical...anyone?
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Posted by ReggieonBway 2013-01-14 19:25:47
^shows rarely have theatres secured during out of town tryouts.
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Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-01-14 20:24:42
What a fantastic first hour! So far season 2 is off to a great start! And many of the new plots are all for the good! Andy Mientus is such a charm! Looking forward to see more of him on the show.
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Posted by cmcc97 2013-01-14 21:20:51
Just watched the preview and wow! Such an iimprovement from last season!
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Posted by cmcc97 2013-01-14 21:20:54
Just watched the preview and wow! Such an iimprovement from last season!
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-14 21:36:43
Let me guess, Derek and Karen do Hit List, Ivy leaves the Sean Hayes show to come back to be Marilyn once Tom takes over as director?
Wild guess.
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-14 22:35:56
Right? They made it so obvious. Ohhhh well, color me not surprised.
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-01-14 22:43:41
But the only reason we know most of that is because we all look at spoilers. 
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-14 22:47:52
But like I said, I'm still excited and eager to see how it all plays out.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-01-14 22:54:11
For those who are in the UK...anyway we can watch it. I am here for 4 more days and really do not think I can wait now.
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Posted by mmh1019 2013-01-15 00:08:23
they did keep "created by Theresa Rebeck" it just wasn't in the opening. I was really impressed with the opening hour. They quickly handled the departure of Dev & Michael, probably better to have both of those handled off screen. Poor Brian D'Arcy James, he deserved so much better than the character of Frank, glad he's had the success of Giant. Ending the first hr with Jeremy Jordan was awesome, and he killed Broadway, Here I Come.
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Posted by mmh1019 2013-01-15 00:08:29
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-15 14:25:37
this theresa rebeck back story is so spiderman / julie taymor!
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-01-21 23:31:50
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/174086-STAGE-TO-SCREENS-Joshua-Safran-the-New-Storyteller-of-Smash-Talks-About-Season-Two/pg1
Here is an in-depth interview with new showrunner Joshua Safran about the new season. I'm looking forward to the creative changes and to see all the new original music from that impressive list of composers!
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Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-01-21 23:35:41
Watched the first hour on iTunes last night and thought it was a mess. Sad, because I was hoping they'd get their sh*t together this season. Hopefully the second hour and the rest of the season are better. I was let down.
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Posted by bjh2114 2013-01-25 19:46:35
WHY GOD, WHY?! He's so terrible.
http://www.broadway.com/buzz/166905/ellis-is-back-jaime-cepero-to-return-to-smash-after-all/
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-25 19:48:21
I'd read before he'd be back in some regard to wrap up his storyline.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-25 19:50:44
Yeah I think it was pretty known he'd be back at least to wrap up his story line.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-25 19:52:57
Also, I feel like I'm the only person who didn't hate him.
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Posted by Jay Lerner-Z 2013-01-25 19:56:55
I liked him as a character too, though Daniel Day-Lewis he is not - except when he's next to Katharine McPhee, naturally.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-26 15:48:28
I watched the preview last night and I dug it, but I dug the first season, too, flaws and all. And I maintain I'm still the only person in America for whom Julia's scarves never even registered.
The opening lyrics, "I know I've kept you waiting, I know I've mad you mad" made me laugh, and I thought it was a clever nod to the audience and reference to the delay in its return all the internet rage the show itself engendered.
Good riddance to Brian D'Arcy James. Blame the writing all you want, but he was always so terrible in this.
Also terrible is Jennifer Hudson, but she's terrible in everything. She had some real doozies of line readings in this episode. It's like she's reading them off cue cards and has never seen these words before in any context in her life.
I guess what was maybe the most surprising is that I found Karen infinitely less irritating than she was last year. Hopefully that will continue. I'm still Team Ivy 4-EVA, but I'm still optimistic maybe I won't hate Karen as much this year.
The only thing I found odd, was Tom's comment about being single.
That stuck out to me to, for the same reasons. It's not like a tour means Sam will never ever return to New York. I'd say good riddance to Sam, too, with his smug superiority last year about how "his way" of dating was the superior way of being gay and the way he stuck his nose in the Tom/Julia situation in the premiere, but I have a feeling their story isn't over. Plus, Sam TOTALLY seems like the long distance relationship type.
I think this show is always going to divide people, but even as someone who really enjoyed season one, I thought there was clarity and focus to this episode that missing in ones prior. I'm ready for this to come back!
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Posted by Lloyd321 2013-01-27 16:30:53
Can't wait for the next one!
I want this season to do BOMBSHELL, yes, but I really want to see a new musical in there. Is there a thread discussion anywhere about possible new SMASH musicals and who the composers could be?
I vote Scott Allen. And the show would be called ________ (fill in the blank)
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-27 18:09:13
There are already multiple new musicals set for this season. One is "Hit List" created by Jimmy and Kyle (Jeremy Jordan and Andy Mientus) and the other is some reimagined version of "Dangerous Liasons" which is where Sean Hayes will come into play
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Posted by Scarywarhol 2013-01-27 18:23:20
I have a feeling that Jeremy Jordan's character will be just as painful as Ellis was for me, if I continue to watch.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-28 09:42:10
Love SMASH, LOVE HILTY, i even grew to like Kat McPhee..... but Jennifer Hudson blaaaahhhh.in the ads ive seen she has equal billing with the other leads, and shes in only 3 episodes. what a slap in the face to the other actors.
Oh and does anyone think JHUD will be anything but "SASSY"?
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Posted by bryan2 2013-01-28 10:12:45
I love that they had Ivy apologize to Karen...but in the real world what she did is not forgivable..(dev thing) and if I were Karen I would have just said FU...but it seemed genuin due to Meg really nailing the scent..(love her ) but to see that Karen will not be in Bombshell is crazy and after she killed it in Boston supposedly I dont understand why the songwriter would still think she wasnt good enough ..I find him to be the most annoying character and becuase his BF is on tour they break up..and another crazy thing..if Angelica Houstons BF is in the "MOB" do you think a producer (her ex husband) would have the balls to take him out...come on....at least make some of this a little bit believable
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-01-28 10:20:35
Entertainment Tonight just released a new clip of Megan Hilty singing a new "Bombshell" number and I LOVE it!
http://www.etonline.com/tv/129755_Megan_Hilty_They_Just_Keep_Moving_The_Line_Smash_First_Look_Clip/index.html
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Posted by DottieD'Luscia 2013-01-28 10:25:28
I saw the first hour of the new episode on "on demand". I liked it. I don't know what it is (maybe lighting), but Megan Hilty looked splotchy and Debra Messing and Bryan D'Arcy James didn't look very good.
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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-01-28 10:32:19
Phyllis, this is the one TV show we can agree on- except for that "Ivy-4Eva" BS and you'll grow out of that!
I too watched the first hour and loved it. The opening song was perfect and Tom's "Oh, I'm single now!" seemed TOTALLY unmotivated. I did like J Hud's song from the show she's in but her acting is ATROCIOUS with a capital ATRO.
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Posted by LYLS3637 2013-01-28 10:54:45
That new clip of Hilty is FANTASTIC!
Glad season 2 is already offering multiple opportunities for Megan to show up Katharine "Dead Eyes" McPhee
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-28 12:05:10
To Dottie, I totally agree with you about Megan not looking good. I don't know what they do to her on this show because in real life she is absolutely GORGEOUS but on this show I swear they try to make her look less attractive as another way to subliminally elevate Kat McPhee in our minds. There were times last year I could have killed that hair and make up team for what they did to poor Megan.
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-28 12:06:24
Oh and one more thing I saw the first 3 eps in their entirety and Megan singing the "moving the line" song from top to bottom is even more phenomenal than that clip shows. My God Karen who?
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Posted by DottieD'Luscia 2013-01-28 12:25:42
^Thanks, I never even thought that it would be done intentionally (re: makeup). Yes, I agree that Megan is beautiful, which is why I was puzzled when I saw episode one of the new season.
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Posted by macnyc 2013-01-28 12:51:39
In that clip Megan's hair looked as if it hadn't been washed in weeks. I liked her performance, but the "Line" song didn't grab me. Maybe I'll like it more after I hear the whole thing.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-28 13:09:36
I thought Hilty looked weird, too when I watched it and I thought it was the quality of the stream!
I didn't notice Brian D'arcy James looking bad, but maybe I just couldn't see past the bad, bad acting.
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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-01-28 13:26:26
Megan Hilty looks bad in this show. Not Andrew Rannels level bad, but bad.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-28 13:46:47
who cares how MH looks, as long as she has that voice!
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-28 19:20:18
Well I care because I love her! And I'm sure she cares....so that's two........
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-29 13:52:04
i just passed the Lyceum theater, and they have it all decorated for BOMBSHELL!!! starring.......
(sorry if i missed mention of this earlier)
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-01-29 16:10:04
It got leaked, but with this show you never know who its going to be!
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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-01-29 16:12:55
SPOILERZ
Derek is out, Tom is directing so of course he bounces Karen and puts Ivy in the lead.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-29 16:24:56
the starring role is on the posters at the Lyceum!! i wont say as to no spoil it
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Posted by broadwaybabytn 2013-01-29 22:06:15
Suestorm, will you PM it to me?
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-01-30 17:47:03
AGH I walked by there today and they had sheets draped over the sign so I couldn't see! DYINGGGGG
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Posted by suestorm 2013-01-30 20:31:39
Tfm pm me if you want to know who was on the signs
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Posted by colorandlight2 2013-01-31 00:03:44
Fascinating read for SMASH fans of season one.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/how-smash-became-tvs-biggest-train-wreck
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-01-31 09:18:59
Interesting read, and now I am curious as to how the writer's room is more like this season with Josh Safran in charge.
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Posted by LYLS3637 2013-01-31 12:11:31
I'm dying to know why Spielberg wanted Hilty recast?!?!?
I can only guess it's because she was showing up his protege...
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-01-31 17:00:32
McPhee was Speilberg's protege?
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Posted by SporkGoddess 2013-01-31 17:36:11
That article was really interesting! Thanks for the link. It explained a lot.
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Posted by Markecib 2013-02-01 11:20:41
If your interested in a spoiler head past the Barrymore and check out the doors. At least until they get covered or taken down. 
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-02-01 13:36:48
SPOILER BELOW!!!
HIT LIST will transfer to Broadway after its Manhattan Theatre Workshop run giving BOMBSHELL a run for its money...
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-01 13:47:44
JACOBZ, anyone, how do you post a pic? I have one I took from the Lyceum Theater with the BOMBSHELL ARTWORK, i would like to post
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-02-01 14:12:43
Just post the photo's URL... :) Or upload it to something like TinyPic and paste the link in the message box or where it says "optional image."
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-01 14:26:14
Thanks JACOBS, i couldnt down load but found a pic of it....
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-01 14:54:57
I some how find the one pull quote "The chemistry between Cartwright and Collins threatens to explode" hard to believe.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-01 15:19:52
Who is Collins? I know people are angry about the leaks but this actually makes me want to watch it even more to see it all play out.
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Posted by Markecib 2013-02-01 15:44:26
Collins is the last name of Jeremy Jordan's character Jimmy Collins. I don't mind the spoilers. It makes me interested on how we get to from what we know to what we are seeing. I'm surprised though they aren't trying to hide some of these details though.
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Posted by SporkGoddess 2013-02-01 15:45:19
Collins isn't Jeremy Jordan, is it? I watched the first half of the premiere on the NBC website and he's so charismatic that he has chemistry even with McPhee.
I actually had a random thought.. do you think that Karen and Ivy's names were inspired by August: Osage County? It's just such a random combination that it made me wonder.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-01 17:35:22
Collins is Jeremy Jordan. I also finally watched the "Moving the Line" clip. A fantastic song, agree that she looks like a drowned rat. I also don't see that being a Marilyn song, but since I have not seen it in context or where it will fit in the show I cannot criticize the intent of it.
They did however look like they were performing at an investors dinner of some sort.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-01 20:33:30
http://ryanseacrest.com/2013/02/01/listen-to-the-premiere-of-katherine-mcphees-new-smash-song/
I think doing Hit List is a very smart move for this show, the musical's score is right up McPhee's alley in terms of vocal abilities.
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-02-01 20:55:35
Agreed. Her chops just couldn't compare to Megan's on the classic musical theater tunes.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-01 21:16:42
Yes, these pop/contemporary tunes is perfect for McPhee.
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Posted by The Dark I Know Well 2013-02-02 13:53:17
Anyone have a link to this for anyone outside of the US?
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-02 14:28:57
Not a link for the actual scene but for the song yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtAL2lROXs8
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Posted by The Dark I Know Well 2013-02-02 14:45:41
Awesome thanks!
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 20:32:23
25 minutes to go...
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Posted by Matt Rogers 2013-02-05 20:40:48
Someone is very eager, but I'll admit, I'm right there with ya.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 20:41:44
Honestly I just said that to bump it up so when the show does start we aren't digging through threads.
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Posted by GatorNY 2013-02-05 20:54:28
I don't have the energy for a 2 hour premiere. If it's good I would need major sedation to get to sleep. DVR is set though.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-05 21:10:57
Flashy new opening credits.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 21:11:50
I liked them.
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Posted by showchoirguy 2013-02-05 21:12:32
Martini throw in 3...2...1...
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-05 21:13:54
"You can get the next one". LOLOLOLOLOL
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Posted by Patti LuPone FANatic 2013-02-05 21:15:44
Well, Wesley Taylor is in this episode. I hope he continues with the show. RC in Austin Texas
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Posted by showchoirguy 2013-02-05 21:18:26
Ann Harada just has the effect of making me smile whenever she appears :)
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Posted by DottieD'Luscia 2013-02-05 21:24:03
Is Savannah Wise still on the show? I find it odd that Karen didn't pick her as one of the backup singers.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 21:36:21
She is, didn't think about it till now.
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Posted by Wicked Fanatic 2013-02-05 21:57:14
Well, Wesley Taylor is in this episode. I hope he continues with the show. RC in Austin Texas
Yes he will be continuing with "Bombshell". Later in the season he's a big part of a number that Leslie Odom sings, (Let's Start) Tomorrow Night. You can listen to it in the link provided earlier for all the songs of "Bombshell" which I'm now listening to again for a 3rd time.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 21:59:43
Annaleigh Ashford? Cute cameo.
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Posted by Tag 2013-02-05 22:04:32
Who is the actress that was the mother character in the Jennifer Hudson show? Was it Brenda Braxton?
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Posted by strummergirl 2013-02-05 22:05:09
I thought Wes Taylor was named a regular?
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Posted by Wicked Fanatic 2013-02-05 22:10:06
Who is the actress that was the mother character in the Jennifer Hudson show? Was it Brenda Braxton?
No it's Sheryl Ralph and she's recurring during Hudson's arc.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 22:10:16
Nice back shot of the Liberty Theatre while Derek was talking to the red headed chorus girl.
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Posted by strummergirl 2013-02-05 22:12:54
Holy crap, Harvey being a gossip to Tom.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 22:14:21
Loved it.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-05 22:15:23
It was lucky that the bartender happened to have an entire stack of Playbills from the show under the bar.
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Posted by Tag 2013-02-05 22:16:16
Who is the actress that was the mother character in the Jennifer Hudson show? Was it Brenda Braxton?
No it's Sheryl Ralph and she's recurring during Hudson's arc.
Sheryl Lee Ralph is playing Hudson's "real" life mother, not the mother character in the stage show (which I still believe was Brenda Braxton). Anyone else know?
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-05 22:19:10
Sheryl Lee Ralph is Lauryn Hill's mother, NOT Jennifer Hudson's.
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Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-05 22:21:13
That musical number though...........
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Posted by songanddanceman2 2013-02-05 22:21:14
Yes it's Brenda Braxton
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Posted by showchoirguy 2013-02-05 22:22:49
The Mary Testa-Jackie Hoffman-Cheyenne Jackson- Harvey Fierstein made me so freaking happy. Also, love seeing Wes and Krysta together is great :)
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Posted by strummergirl 2013-02-05 22:24:15
I feel like that is the 5th time this week I saw Margo Martindale on my TV (I am also including her bit part in The Rocketeer).
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-05 22:41:03
What the F**K was that song in the bar?! I'm completely baffled.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-05 22:41:15
EVERYONE IS JUST ACTING CIRCLE AROUND DEAD EYES.
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Posted by Luscious 2013-02-05 22:44:07
Very weak. One new original song in the first two epsiodes? And what's with the Will & Grace storyline? The show feels like it's in its 8th season and grapsing for straws.
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Posted by strummergirl 2013-02-05 22:44:42
That exterior scene from the party was embarrassing for McPhee. Flat, flat, flat.
Ivy is my antidote.
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Posted by OperaBwayLover 2013-02-05 22:45:15
Megan Hilty is FIERCE. That is all. :-p
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 22:46:21
I thought we were up to three original songs?
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-05 22:48:07
There are not enough songs in this second episode, original or otherwise. I'm at 32 min and only one song.
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Posted by wonkit 2013-02-05 22:49:02
Well, I made it through the first hour, and that's my schlock limit for the week. I thought this was supposed to be better. Lots of name dropping, musical arrangements that sound like GLEE, and not a scintilla of genuine emotion. Loved the Jeremy Jordan song - that's about it.
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Posted by supersam1026 2013-02-05 22:49:06
One original song?!? The past 2 hours have been PACKED with originals!! Cut, Print, Moving On, Jennifer Hudson's song, Broadway Here I Come, the song by McPhee at the party, and now They Just Keep Moving the Line.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 22:49:16
I am loving me some Andy.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-05 22:52:38
Not the SCARVES!
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Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-05 22:52:52
The highlight of the last two hours came at an hour and 55 minutes in, with that scarf joke.
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-05 22:56:18
Was the song Iowa sang in BK a Joe Iconis number?
Even if it was original it sounded like a bland cover, and this is coming from a HUGE Iconis fan (if it was his work).
I really was hoping this would be a lot more Gossip Girl-y 
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-05 22:57:50
Lets all keep in mind it was just the first 2 hours.
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Posted by jacobtsf 2013-02-05 22:59:33
Most of the media people who saw the first few episodes of this season mentioned that it took a few episodes to find its new footing but it does get there.
I was happy with most of tonight. They are embracing some of the soapy aspects that are going to exist, while trimming a lot of fat. I'm not sure this show could ever be perfect (especially to theatre lovers who will nitpick everything, and I freely admit I am one) but it seems better now then it did at any point last season.
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Posted by OperaBwayLover 2013-02-05 23:04:25
It's better enough that I might actually be able to watch it without wanting to throw something at the screen. :-p
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-05 23:05:15
I loved it. I don't care to nitpick it. I thought it was as good as the pilot. I had no need for the drunk Derek fantasy sequence but I liked all the other songs. And poor Teresa Rebeck with the scarf line.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-05 23:07:00
That scarf line was just brilliant.
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Posted by NovaNurse7 2013-02-05 23:07:31
Whizzer, the song Katharine McPhee sang in Brooklyn was a Pasek and Paul tune, I believe.
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-05 23:07:50
Hallelujah!! My Ivy Lynn just brought it home. Time to rewind and rewatch again and again and again.
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-05 23:07:59
That's exactly what I meant by "Poor Teresa Rebeck."
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Posted by Luscious 2013-02-05 23:14:48
Will & Grace meets Glee meets Zzzzzzzzzzzz. And it's already preempted next week. Way to build momentum. And what were the new original songs??? The one sung by this season's newest contender for most annoying character, Jimmy, sounded like the only new one to me. The other's were covers and retreads from last season.
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Posted by Borstalboy 2013-02-05 23:15:17
Rebecca Shukert referred to "anger salads" in season one. In season two the show features "apology muffins."
COINCIDENCE????????
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-05 23:16:58
This is such a tender song and I have a feeling it is when she is dying.
Bernadette Peters and Megan Hilty
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-05 23:17:15
How are they like Will and Grace except that he's gay and she was Grace? I believe Tom and Julia actually care about each other.
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Posted by dramamama611 2013-02-05 23:17:50
Broadway Here I Come was the Iconis' song.
There was lots I liked, and lots I rolled my eyes at -- but overall, I was satisfied. I like the new characters, but feel some are going to have to disappear to actually give proper attention to others.
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-05 23:18:36
Thanks NovaNurse and yes that line about the scarves was inspired.
My one big complaint was not enough music. I think they are righting the ship though overall.
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Posted by ACL2006 2013-02-05 23:33:51
I feel season 2 is off to a solid start and full of so many possibilities. Karen goes into Hit List & Ivy joins Sean Hayes' musical comedy in the lead role. Bombshell still gets workshopped and doesn't arrive on Broadway until the following season. The Tony's will feature Karen vs. Ivy vs. Jennifer Hudson(Wiz revival??), thus leading into season 3 with who gets to play Marilyn on Broadway.
and that red haired actress that Derek confronted was Mara Davi.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-05 23:35:13
I'm still digging it. I'm not in show business and I don't live in New York, so maybe that's why it's easier for me to watch than a lot of you.
Was Julia's pregnancy storyline ever tied up? Are they just ignoring what happened in the finale (which I would TOTALLY be okay with) or did I miss it?
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Posted by TFMH18 2013-02-05 23:46:05
MEGAN. FUGGING. HILTY.
That is all.
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Posted by Patti LuPone FANatic 2013-02-05 23:54:37
ACL...when I think of Mara Davi... I still picture her in her ACL short hairstyle.
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Posted by GatorNY 2013-02-05 23:54:59
Ended up watching and I'm still waiting for my sedation to kick in... Jeremy made it interesting. The trailer of what's coming looks fantastic- wonder if it'll live up to how good the clips made it look.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:02:29
Jeremy should go into gay porn just to show Karen that he's not gonna be pigeonholed into just being a song writer. That'll show her!
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 00:02:50
The pregnancy. Anyone?
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-06 00:05:03
I do not think it was mentioned.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:05:14
Eileen is pregnant?! I bet it was that damn Jordan Roth.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 00:08:10
Thank you, dear Namo. I'm choosing to believe Julia had an abortion.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:09:28
Wait, Julia was pregnant? Was it the muffins that made her miscarry?
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 00:12:15
If I remember correctly, it was strongly hinted at in the first season finale, but that was so long ago that I barely remember. I felt like they were setting up an inevitable "who's the father?" storyline that no one wanted.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:13:52
I don't remember that. But I wish they'd do it and have the baby be black just to bring Ellis back.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 00:15:56
Better Ellis than one more second of Michael Reidel.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:18:02
He's an amazing ac-tor. He belongs in front of the cam-era.
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Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-06 00:18:26
Bring back Ellis.
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-06 00:18:51
You're right Phyllis. Deb was pregnant in the season finale last year. She had morning sickness and they were definitely going to set up a "Who's the daddy?" storyline. They could have gone on Maury- Mr. Swift, You are NOT the father!
Fine by me that they dropped it. I guess they were just counting on us forgetting about it.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 00:20:17
I knew PalJoey would come in to be pro-Ellis! I would sign a petition to bring Ellis back. Also, I'd like a sex scene between Andy Mientus and Wesley Taylor. And Ellis. I'd like to see them in a triad.
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 00:27:54
Hilty knocked it out of the ballpark with that last number. Overall, I thought it was a solid start for the show. I'm interested to see what will happen during the rest of the season especially with the preview at the end.
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Posted by nasty_khakis 2013-02-06 00:39:18
Did I miss the scarf line? When was it?
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:41:19
Towards the end.
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Posted by bjh2114 2013-02-06 00:49:59
God McPhee is so terrible. I do like that they are making her out to be the dumb, obnoxious bitch this season. Ivy was the only good thing about the episode. Her song was excellent. The low point of the episode was the song with Derek and the girls in the bar. Mara Davi and Annaleigh Ashford were excellent in the guest parts.
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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-06 00:54:06
Seriously, last season Ivy was the bitch and I wanted her to meet the front of a moving bus but this season it's slowly turning to the other one.
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Posted by dramamama611 2013-02-06 04:39:26
I don't think they are making Karen a bitch, just vindictive. Ivy DID sleep with her boyfriend you know. She's got a right to have hard feelings. I don't remember her being bitchy to anyone else.
I DID like Ivy much more last night, you can care about a girl trying to make amends.
I'm hopeful about the buzz that things get much better over the next few episodes -- if not, this will likely be the last season, for me, anyway.
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Posted by GatorNY 2013-02-06 07:19:44
At the beginning of the scene at the warehouse place in Brooklyn, there is a shot from the gallery level, showed someone's profile, then zoomed in on Karen and friends arriving. I thought it looked like Ellis.
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Posted by mamaleh 2013-02-06 08:10:15
Megan Hilty's big number last night, "They Just Keep Moving the Line" blew me away. She's so much more talented than McPhee, both in acting and singing. I find it amusing that McPhee's Karen is supposed to be the big discovery, the explosive talent, when it's pretty obvious (to me, anyway) that Hilty's Ivy is the nascent star.
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Posted by DeNada 2013-02-06 08:19:11
I haven't seen the second ep yet but I have listened to the album stream on AOL. Moving The Line is brilliant there, and I do agree that Megan Hilty is the more talented of the two, but it strikes me that McPhee is much better on the recording than I was expecting. Her rendition of Never Give All The Heart with just the piano is surprisingly moving, and there are several numbers where she exceeds expectations.
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Posted by bjh2114 2013-02-06 09:07:12
Being vindictive and being a bitch are different. She wasn't just being bitchy to Ivy. She was being stuck up in all the scenes with Jeremy Jordan's character too. I think it's hilarious that all of a sudden she's a talent scout. She thinks VERY highly of herself. In the last scene when she was like "I was on the subway", that wasn't vindictive. That was bitchy.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 09:14:40
At the beginning of the scene at the warehouse place in Brooklyn, there is a shot from the gallery level, showed someone's profile, then zoomed in on Karen and friends arriving. I thought it looked like Ellis
GATOR I thought the same thing! Hilty was def the highlight as she always is, and i love JJ but what was with his hair??
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Posted by GatorNY 2013-02-06 09:48:33
My crush on Jeremy Jordan grew a bit last night. He's definitely playing the cocky straight guy very well. Looking forward to seeing him in more big musical numbers.
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Posted by everythingtaboo 2013-02-06 10:03:40
Bitchy, vindicate, I don't care - I'm just glad they're actually trying to give Karen an actual character, as opposed to this passive girl that falls ass-backward into one fairy tale moment to another. I guess they realized that no one could stay in NYC that long as stay so sweet.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 10:16:47
well TABOO, lets not forget, she once again DID win over ANOTHER room with her amazing singing in Greenpoint! haha
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-06 10:32:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO26hdTA9_0
That season preview after the episode looked amazing! And "Public Relations" is one of the highlights on the Bombshell album in my opinion.
I like that they are showcasing McPhee's pop vocals with the new musical, and allowing Hilty to shine with her Broadway pipes in Bombshell this season. Great premiere last night!
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Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-06 10:50:52
Ivy DID sleep with her boyfriend you know.
Oh, so WHAT.
Rachel Shukert's recap, for those who enjoy her recaps even more than the show.
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Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-06 11:00:48
Karen Cartwright, the human equivalent of one of those grocery store peaches that looks like a Cezanne but tastes like the inside of a mattress
That was good
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 11:09:10
Michael Fucking Riedel is the goddamn Flat Stanley of SMASH. He just appears...two dimensional and with that inexpressive face. Put Karen's eyes behind his face and you have a corpse.
I personally HATE the use of 'real' theatre people in this completely unreal world of SMASH. I actually don't have a problem accepting the alternate reality that SMASH is presenting...but having Michael Riedel and Jordan Roth show up just makes things weird and disjointed. Imagine if they got a real actor to play the nasty gossip columnist instead of that unsettling wraith.
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Posted by ACL2006 2013-02-06 11:11:48
I'll add that the show is better with Hilty having a solo. We need to hear her sing more!!
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Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-06 11:12:02
He did such an odd "Ain't I a stinker" performance with his overt indication of a recorder and his cutesy wondering if he could quote Frank about Derek sleeping with any actress in a Marilyn wig.
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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-02-06 11:18:51
I love musicals, I love theater and theater actors. So why is it that I truly cannot stand this show?
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Posted by Borstalboy 2013-02-06 11:26:23
Shukert seemed understandably exhausted by the 2 hour running time (I was, too!), but the insipidity that is Karen/Kat will continue to be a font of inspiration. Loved her take on the bartender!
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 11:31:12
The writers have themselves to blame for this happening. They should not have done all that inconsistent script writing in season 1. We'll be lucky to even get some closure this season.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-06 11:37:05
Actually, it's Theresa Rebeck who should be blamed.
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Posted by Okiekat 2013-02-06 11:38:07
I love this show. But I think you're right about the inconsistencies in Season 1. Last night's ratings were extremely low. It also won't help that the show is off until Feb. 19.
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/02/ratings-news-6th-feb-2013.html
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Posted by ACL2006 2013-02-06 11:41:04
question: when it returns in two weeks, will it air at 9pm or 10pm?? they need some kind of ratings boost or there's no chance we'll see a season 3.
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-06 11:42:57
I would assume it's off so it's not on every week during sweeps... the way they would pull 30 Rock during sweeps month. They were trying to save it.
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 11:43:34
At this point I am doubting that a season 2 DVD will happen. NBC may not even want to air the episodes online.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-06 11:45:21
It's pre-empted next week for the State of the Union Address.
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-06 11:46:19
Effin Obama is trying to kill SMASH!
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 11:48:10
theyre setting up the whole season, new characters etc, so thats why it mightve been a bit slow in some sections.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-06 11:49:28
I don't think this show will be pulled before all of its episodes are aired. If you compare it to the other shows on NBC right now, DO NO HARM is doing worst, and SMASH is performing in the range of THE NEW NORMAL, GO ON and DECEPTION.
What NBC needs to do is air The Voice results show Tuesdays at 9PM instead to help give SMASH a bit of a boost.
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Posted by Okiekat 2013-02-06 11:49:41
I just checked. Pres. Obama's State of the Union address is next Tuesday. All networks preempted. Perhaps NBC can find a way to build an audience by the 19th.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 11:53:25
im so sick of investing in shows like 666ParkAve, and The B in Apt 23 only to have them pulled for BS
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 11:56:04
"I don't think this show will be pulled before all of its episodes are aired. If you compare it to the other shows on NBC right now, DO NO HARM is doing worst, and SMASH is performing in the range of THE NEW NORMAL, GO ON and DECEPTION."
'Harry's Law' had 1.0 ratings during its second and final season, so maybe NBC will just air the rest of the episodes and the let the series end after that.
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Posted by OperaBwayLover 2013-02-06 12:00:11
PalJoey, thanks for posting the link to the Vulture recap! I was looking for it this morning and couldn't find it. Last season, that was literally my favorite part of watching- reading the Vulture recap and broadwayabridged's take on the show.
I really do like the fact they're setting up Karen and Ivy to be in different shows. Although, all of the "Jimmy's show is the new Rent!" references made me gag. Really looking forward to the "Les Liasons" musical with Ivy.
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Posted by WhizzerMarvin TrinaJasonMendel 2013-02-06 12:05:18
The ratings are out...and it's a series low. A 1.1 in the ratings share, which is down from a 3.8 for the premiere of the first season.
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-02-06 12:27:28
Was The Voice on last night? Maybe once that season premieres ratings will get a slight boost.
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Posted by The Pud 2013-02-06 12:29:16
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/05/will-the-smash-premiere-be-a-smash-or-a-bombshell-poll/168071/
ouch
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-06 12:31:42
With all fairness didn't it follow the Superbowl or something last year? NBC loves this project, and with other shows not doing so well I could see them trying to get a third season out of it. Did NBC release their line up, where will it be the rest of the season?
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 12:35:26
I'm surprised that McPhee is leading in this poll on People.com.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20671236,00.html
However, I know that you all might disagree with me about this, but no matter what happens with this I would like to see McPhee play Elphaba in the film adaptation of 'Wicked'. I think she would be better than Lea Michele.
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Posted by The Pud 2013-02-06 12:38:39
Bway.com did a rating of best songs from last night's premier and Ivy's song, "They Keep Moving the Line", came in 1st as the fave with "Broadway Here I Come", second. Karen's best was 5th.
IMO Mcfee doesn't work in this show.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-06 12:40:54
On a positive note, "Broadway, Here I Come" is in the top 100 on the itunes charts.
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 12:42:52
After looking at The Pud's article, it didn't help the fact that the show also had to compete against 'NCIS', 'New Girl', 'The Bachelor' (which aired on a special night).
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Posted by GatorNY 2013-02-06 12:45:10
They can't cancel it...ever. They promised it to me as a reward to me for being one of their 3 loyal viewers since back in the Frasier and Caroline in the City days.
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Posted by The Pud 2013-02-06 12:47:26
Broadway Here I Come is awsome and so is Jordan, this show will only propell him further into stardom, he will have not trouble getting work if Smash doesnt' survive. The first hour was a little slow and Smash should have started out with bang hopefully it picks up momentum.
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/whoa_show_no_mo_uGITtdCFLIppIaD0IrD6EL
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Posted by Dr. Jaykll 2013-02-06 12:48:03
Full "Bombshell" cast recording available for early preview here:
http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/11
On page 3.
Enjoy!
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 13:30:12
Rachel Shukert's recap reads like it was written by someone on coke. Almost five paragraphs before she even starts talking about the actual show. Miranda July! Miranda Priestly! SNIFFFFFFF.
I personally HATE the use of 'real' theatre people in this completely unreal world of SMASH. I actually don't have a problem accepting the alternate reality that SMASH is presenting...but having Michael Riedel and Jordan Roth show up just makes things weird and disjointed. Imagine if they got a real actor to play the nasty gossip columnist instead of that unsettling wraith.
Robbie, I thought almost this exact thing last night. Michael Riedel is bad enough, but Jordan Roth? Liza will be wasted playing herself. I'm surprised ACADEMY AWARD WINNER JENNIFER HUDSON wasn't playing herself. The "as themselves" cameos add nothing (even Harvey Fierstein would have been better served playing a character) and the lower end ones (like the aforementioned Jordan Roth) aren't anything but in-jokes for New Yorkers.
But I guess this thread is just gonna be like last year, where three people love it, most everyone else just bitches about everything, and a small contingent goes out of their way to spoil each and every plot point of the upcoming season.
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Posted by TheresaG 2013-02-06 14:00:00
I liked most of last night but by 10:30 was ready to move on. 2 hours for Smash is too much.
Jennifer Hudson totally out sang Kat McPhee on their party number. Looking forward to more of Hudson this season.
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Posted by dtzumbrunnen 2013-02-06 14:05:01
It'll be interesting to see what happens with these ratings when the C+3 ratings come in that show who watched via DVR. Those had a big lift for shows like Revolution, and that's the ultimate number that advertisers buy, not the live ratings anymore.
While the comparison from season finale last year is totally appropriate, the premiere to premiere is wacky. With super bowl hype plus the voice it's totally apples to oranges. I doubt anyone will make decisions about the life of Smash until it's back behind The Voice. If it can pull decent numbers there, it will continue to live (I HOPE).
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Posted by yankeefan7 2013-02-06 14:10:31
IMO - I think people "bitch" about it because they think it has to be exactly like Broadway. This is fiction and they will stretch the truth to try and make the show more entertaining.
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Posted by yankeefan7 2013-02-06 14:13:20
IMO - seemed to me this was Hudson's song and McPhee was more of a backup vocalist until near the end when she had small solo part.
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 14:20:58
"Rachel Shukert's recap reads like it was written by someone on coke. Almost five paragraphs before she even starts talking about the actual show. Miranda July! Miranda Priestly! SNIFFFFFFF."
Which is why I LOVE them. They remind me of every great Saturday night I've ever had!
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Posted by SporkGoddess 2013-02-06 14:36:41
I don't usually enjoy Rachel Shukert's recap, but this one was great. Loved her comment about Karen being the better "villain" because she's just so naturally unlikeable.
As for Julia's pregnancy, it's pretty easy to just write it off as the stomach flu or anxiety wreaking havoc on her stomach. I don't recall it showing her throwing up over a really long time.
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 14:39:11
Yeah...I thought it ended up being anxiety?
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Posted by bwayrose7 2013-02-06 14:42:15
I actually enjoyed last night's episode quite a bit; I think I really like this new, streamlined style. Still prefer Ivy to Karen, and I'm glad they've repaired Ivy's character from the extremes of last season. In all fairness, I wasn't as bothered by Karen now that she seems to have a spine (though getting Ivy fired was a nasty bit of diva behavior, IMO). Jennifer Hudson, glorious as always, and completely outshone everyone else whenever she was on screen. It was nice to see Julia finally pulling it together and Derek falling apart a bit. Jeremy Jordan's Jimmy (wow, say that three times fast) is so unlikeable he's likeable, if that makes sense, and "Broadway Here I Come" was probably my favorite number of the night. And Andy Mientus's Kyle is just adorable. The scene at the gala was also a favorite of mine, watching the team scheme and come together. Also, nice touch of Derek kissing Ivy's hand- I think it's nice to show that he is capable of actual affection, not just sleaze (ditto for the heartfelt moment with Karen after the show was frozen, telling her to find "something else.") Overall, I think I may allow myself to have hope in this show yet!
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 14:44:34
""IMO - I think people "bitch" about it because they think it has to be exactly like Broadway. This is fiction and they will stretch the truth to try and make the show more entertaining.""
AGREED. just like the law firm in THE GOOD WIFE
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 14:57:30
"IMO - I think people "bitch" about it because they think it has to be exactly like Broadway. This is fiction and they will stretch the truth to try and make the show more entertaining."
I'd be perfectly fine with that if we lived in a world where ALL THAT JAZZ never existed. But we have actually seen entertainment about Broadway that is entertaining (even over the top) and still find an emotional truth that this show lacks.
But whatever, I love to hate it and I hate to love it. I'll never stop watching.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 15:04:37
Oh, I'm fine with the pregnancy never being mentioned again. I just thought it was noteworthy that everything from Dev to the scarves seemed to get a wrap-up, so the fact that that was ignored so blatantly surprised me. But I do not want her to be pregnant at all. I want her to find a non-annoying man and have hot sex that will unlock her creative juices.
I DID think it was kind of funny to be setting up this "Derrick is getting a comeuppance for being a womanizer" in the same episode where Jeremy Jordon so sexistly dismissed McPhee because she was "uptight."
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 15:07:39
Wait...he just was a little too date rapey for me. I was uncomfortable.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 15:09:13
Who? Derrick or Jeremy Jordan?
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Posted by StarToBe2 2013-02-06 15:17:13
I don't think the storyline of the pregnancy is over with, otherwise they would have wrapped it up last night. I mean, she WAS in bed for days/weeks/whatever on end and that could have been part of the depression/funk.
Michael Swift will be brought back and I"m pretty sure it's due to that story line.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 15:20:23
theres a big diff between a womanizer (derrick) and being a douche (jeremey). that dancer had it so right when she schooled derrick on his sexist behavior
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 15:51:14
Jeremy was the date rapey one. Such anger behind the eyes. Though, he may be trying to act enough for both him and Ninny McPhee.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 15:51:59
I think he looks weird on camera. Maybe it's the beady eyes? I
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Posted by Tom1071 2013-02-06 16:08:42
"I think he looks weird on camera. Maybe it's the beady eyes?"
It's the complete lack of sideburns.
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Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-06 16:09:27
Jennifer Hudson totally out sang Kat McPhee on their party number.
Wait--that was a duet?
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 16:10:56
But with Hudson around, Kat McPhee suddenly looks like Meryl Streep in the acting department.
"Get ready. This will be you. inafewmonths."
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 16:21:50
Every time Jordan appeared on screen, I started to sing the Monchichi commercial jingle.
Please note that I do believe that he's is immensely Fuckable and totally talented...but this show makes people look weird!
Like...I'd be certain Christian Borle is 82% silly putty if I only went by this show.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 16:23:46
I would ride that Silly Putty six ways to Sunday, though.
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-06 16:23:54
Like Lucy's nose and Bill Holden? Cue Deb Messing!
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 16:25:43
I think it's just that some people look good on camera and others don't. I thought all during Les Mis that Aaron Tveit didn't have a face for camera.
Conversely, I tend to think Annaleigh Ashford looks like a gargoyle in real life,but I thought she looked cutish on the show last night.
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-06 16:26:39
I mean...I've seen him on stage a bunch of times, and hung out with him a bit one night back in the mid-Aughties. He's totes adorbs, as the kids say.
But, with Megan Hilty looking like a chemical peel, it's clear that the DP is straight out of film school.
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Posted by suestorm 2013-02-06 16:26:40
TOM thats what i was saying, his hair looks wierd! and i love him, he just needs sideburns! and those poof on top yeesh
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 16:29:08
Point taken, Robbie. I still think there's something about his eyes that don't translate well. Andy Mientus, however, is adorable as hell.
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-06 17:07:03
Another user on here posted this. 'Smash' was adjusted up a tenth of a point.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 17:08:45
CONGRATS TO SMASH
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-06 17:40:57
Glad to see it adjusted UP and not DOWN. Hopefully ratings will go up in coming weeks.
And @Phyllis Rogers Stone, you thought Aaron Tveit didn't look good in the Les Mis movie?! I've never found him to be more attractive. lol
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 17:52:41
Heh. Different strokes, I guess. I just thought his face looked weird!
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Posted by Borstalboy 2013-02-06 19:03:29
Glad ratings were up instead of down, but with that painful Betty White repeat as a lead-in, NBC wasn't helping.
And I agree there's something wrong with Jordan's eyes...he would have been a great soap opera lothario/villain back in the day.
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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-06 20:42:30
"I'd be perfectly fine with that if we lived in a world where ALL THAT JAZZ never existed. But we have actually seen entertainment about Broadway that is entertaining (even over the top) and still find an emotional truth that this show lacks. |
CultureVulture mentioned ATJ as well... And, I mean, sure I'd prefer *that* show, but it would never ever happen on network tv (and probably not on cable, either). All the execs wouldn't greenlight any scripts, and perhaps rightly because it wouldn't get the numbers they seem to think more and more they need. Since much of the same team was in place when the show was meant for Showtime, I'm not sure it would have been any better, but most of these high concept shows the networks pull out to compete with the increasing devotion to cable dramas don't work--not because the content can't be more adult due to network regulations, but because they still try too hard to appeal to the largest possible 18-49 demo.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-06 21:04:04
All That Jazz had the forethought to have that Jessica Lange conceit. SMASH could to something like that, maybe tie it in to Heaven on Earth
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Posted by SonofRobbieJ 2013-02-07 11:33:33
To be clear, I only brought ALL THAT JAZZ up as an example of a daring work that felt like it got at something true about the business of putting on a Broadway show.
That's probably my biggest problem with SMASH. I think that putting on a show IS interesting, and I just wish they'd trust that.
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Posted by Tony2600 2013-02-07 14:40:42
The show is doomed as long as theyve got a protagonist who cant act. I challenge you to watch any of her scenes and tell me whether shes happy, sad, angry or scared. Yes, she has a pretty face and a pleasant voice but everything else is emotional botox.
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Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-07 14:48:56
"I challenge you to watch any of her scenes and tell me whether shes happy, sad, angry or scared."
Which makes her in some ways oddly appropriate to be playing a Broadway up and comer. There are some folks who get a LOT of attention who are very much like that.
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Posted by bwayrose7 2013-02-07 15:09:47
I'm just glad that it seems they actually may USE the Broadway talent properly this year. Last year, they pushed aside the clearly more talented of the "dueling divas" in favor of the designated protagonist. Will Chase's character, though given some good songs, had a really awful character that no actor could've made much of. And they never even let Brian D'Arcy James sing! I leave out Christian Borle because I personally found Tom one of the only tolerable characters last season. But this year, it appears they're going to bring Jeremy Jordan's character in as a leading man, Andy Mientus's as a supporting character with some real personality, and seem to be fixing Ivy's characterization.
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Posted by yankeefan7 2013-02-08 15:22:38
SonofRobbieJ - Yes, "All That Jazz" was wonderful but the difference is "SMASH" is a weekly TV series and IMO harder to do.
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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-08 16:06:37
And add to that, a NETWORK tv show.
But I think Robbie cleared up that wasn't why he brought up the movie--I think he just meant the show lacks that feeling of excitement.
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Posted by adam.peterson44 2013-02-08 17:40:27
I'm late to the party here and finally caught up on watching the season premiere of Smash last night, but just wanted to say that it does seem improved compared to last year in terms of the focus on the theatre world and less on the home lives, and with the new characters replacing the worst of the old ones.
And Megan's performance of They just keep moving the line got me excited for Smash again the way that the first episode got me feeling last year with Let me be your star, and which I hadn't quite felt again since. She is phenomenal! More Megan singing Broadway anthem-type songs, please!
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Posted by Gothampc 2013-02-08 17:49:43
"The show is doomed as long as theyve got a protagonist who cant act. I challenge you to watch any of her scenes and tell me whether shes happy, sad, angry or scared. Yes, she has a pretty face and a pleasant voice but everything else is emotional botox."
Enough about Deb Messing. Let's discuss Katharine McPhee.
"And add to that, a NETWORK tv show."
I don't think Network shows have the edge anymore. Mad Men and other cable shows are vastly superior to network shows. Maybe the networks should adopt the British model and produce less episodes and focus on quality rather than quantity.
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-02-08 20:57:02
"I don't think Network shows have the edge anymore."
When was the last time any Network drama got nominated for EMMYS? At least last handful of years been Brit and Cable dramas I thought.
"edit"
Oops, I forgot THE GOOD WIFE few years ago...
And all of you know that Golden Globe doesn't really count for this topic since voters for that is totally different. EMMY voters actually work in TV drama field not like GGs.
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Posted by SporkGoddess 2013-02-08 21:10:01
Enough about Deb Messing. Let's discuss Katharine McPhee.
I thought that most people have already been discussing Kat McPhee and her dead eyes.
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Posted by Gothampc 2013-02-08 21:24:12
"I thought that most people have already been discussing Kat McPhee and her dead eyes."
LOL. I know. I just don't think Debra Messing adds that much to the show either.
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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-02-08 22:38:54
Man, Deb Messing can act rings around McPhee...I know Mr. Tigh-ass Republican isn't trying to imply that Deb Messing was the one referred to when this was posted:
"The show is doomed as long as theyve got a protagonist who cant act. I challenge you to watch any of her scenes and tell me whether shes happy, sad, angry or scared. Yes, she has a pretty face and a pleasant voice but everything else is emotional botox."
Because then he's more of an IDIOT than I gave him credit for.
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-08 22:45:39
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Posted by SporkGoddess 2013-02-09 01:02:16
Does anyone know who played Daisy (the dancer who accused Derek of sexual harassment)? She is absolutely gorgeous.
Sorry if it was discussed previously in this thread, I couldn't find it if it was.
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Posted by wicked1492 2013-02-09 01:07:31
If its the redhead who was on the street, Mara Davi, Maggie from the A CHORUS LINE revival. Love her.
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Posted by yankeefan7 2013-02-09 14:19:47
Gothampc - I agree, don't think Messing add anything to show. I don't like her character and I don't think she is a good fit for this role. She was very good comedic actress in "Will and Grace" but this role is SMASH is not for her IMO.
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Posted by Bettyboy72 2013-02-10 21:51:27
The DP should be fired. He makes everyone look awful. Messing has double chins and jowls, as does Huston. Hilty has age spots and double chins. He does not know how to photograph women.
Messing has resorted to going full on Grace. She lost her edge from last season and is just playing it safe. She's Grace.
I don't understand Wesley Taylor's character at all. In the rehearsal studio he's Ivy's shadow and confidante, giving Karen the stink eye. Then he's always shown in Karen's living room with her and going out with her. Hello?
The writing is horrendous. Why add new characters when you cant properly address the old ones.
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Posted by mdundaswood 2013-02-11 17:10:21
"Dramaturgy" goes prime time in upcoming Smash episode?
http://simply-showbiz.com/blog/archives/43458
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Posted by beautywickedlover 2013-02-11 20:30:22
TV by The Numbers does not think the show will be renewed for a second season. As I mentioned earlier, just in case, this does happen I hope they make sure to give some closure in this season's final episode.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-11 20:35:36
And we're trusting that site?
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Posted by macnyc 2013-02-11 23:06:04
Smash is a very expensive show to produce and probably needs good ratings to justify the cost.
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-11 23:20:51
I think it is still too early to tell. If SMASH can rise to 1.8+ in ratings in its coming weeks then I think the show will get a third season. If it drops then we should be worried.
Other than The Voice and Community, NBC has no other "signature" show that defines the network. With The Office and 30 Rock both ending this year, and Deception and Do No Harm both failing, I think SMASH has a chance of getting a third season should their ratings improve in the coming weeks.
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-02-11 23:57:16
kyl3fong2, how was last year? Did ratings improve after series premiere? (sorry I wan't following the ratings last year)
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Posted by kyl3fong2 2013-02-12 10:17:10
It dipped after the Super Bowl inflated premiere, but it would vary from going up or down in the 2.0 range from what I recall, and a 2.0+ rating is good for NBC.
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Posted by beensince1987 2013-02-12 12:50:12
So it's almost 50% decline from a year ago. I forgot premiere followed Super Bowl last year, maybe cause I watched it online before that...
I don't see the light at the end of this tunnel. Oh well.
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Posted by itsahopi 2013-02-12 13:19:38
didn't the premiere follow The Voice on the Monday after the Super Bowl? I thought that was their big tag line, "The Monday After the Super Bowl."
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Posted by The Pud 2013-02-12 14:04:46
New clip for Smash, looks great!
https://plus.google.com/110077547675146131993/posts/dEhV65LfZ8i#110077547675146131993/posts/dEhV65LfZ8i
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Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-12 14:23:28
Smash will survive.
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Posted by ucjrdude902 2013-02-12 14:43:18
If if we don't get a third season, we'll get all of 2.
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Posted by OperaBwayLover 2013-02-12 15:53:52
I have to wonder, based on the release of the Bombshell CD: will there be a similar release for the competing show, Hit List? If nothing else, they could do a mini-disc, like Glee does for special episodes (the Rocky Horror, Grease, and Madonna episodes all got their own albums).
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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-12 16:03:47
I hear it's a Smash!
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Posted by SNAFU 2013-02-12 16:14:08
So happy for a good friend of mine, he got called to be in an episode. He is taping today! Go Paul!
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Posted by luvbrdway 2013-02-12 21:56:50
Just finished watching "Bunheads". Holy cow-the blonde girl is a dead ringer for Megan Hilty.
Scarves are gone, Leo is gone, Ellis is gone. I am happy.
Megan Hilty-could listen to her every day for breakfast.
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-12 22:34:31
I have had "Moving the Line" and "Hang the Moon" on repeat, for days....
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Posted by E.Davis 2013-02-13 17:11:02
I just thought of something, with Tom taking over as director when it goes to Broadway, would all the staging have to be changed with Derek leaving the show?
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-02-13 17:22:05
Unless they were to credit Derek for his work, which I believe they do... they credit him for Choreography according to the spoiler image.
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Posted by jacobsnchz14 2013-02-19 22:17:18
Jenn Damiano and Jessie Mueller mentions. Bernie Telsey cameo.
