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Broadway's largest set desgin
Posted by Gmerchant123 2012-11-12 21:59:58


I've heard that my fair lady's set was so big! Same with the latest revival of the King and I

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Posted by morosco 2012-11-12 22:15:15


I would think Broadway's largest set design would be a tie between CATS and STARLIGHT EXPRESS.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2012-11-12 22:18:00


Only because of ALW's huge and impressive...



... ego.

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Posted by MattDe 2012-11-12 23:09:25


ALW does have a huge ego but he did get a TONY which was possibly due to well nothing else playing.

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Posted by Wynbish 2012-11-12 23:12:18


I've heard that my fair lady's set was so big!

Can't decide if that's a "That's what she said!" or a classic "How big was it????"

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Posted by Jungle Red 2012-11-12 23:26:29


Wyn: Reminds me of Match game! Dumb Dora was so dumb. "How dumb was she?"

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Posted by Wynbish 2012-11-12 23:32:18


The set was so big, it made blank look tiny

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Posted by Jungle Red 2012-11-12 23:37:36


You changed it!

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-11-13 00:46:24


Off Broadway [Title of Show] and the Barrow Street "Our Town" had the biggest sets that I have seen.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2012-11-13 00:55:30


"Our Town" doesn't have a set. I googled it but didn't find anything except posters and pictures of the cast. What did they do differently?

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Posted by Wynbish 2012-11-13 01:00:09


I think those were suggested in jest, Jungle

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Posted by AEA AGMA SM 2012-11-13 01:01:22


""Our Town" doesn't have a set. I googled it but didn't find anything except posters and pictures of the cast. What did they do differently?"

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2012-11-13 01:04:44


Jungle Red - the Barrow Street had a fabulous design by the folks who design Cirque de Soleil. Instead of 2 step-ladders, Emily and George were each on their own trapeze. It was one for the ages, really. Flying by Foy took Emily back to Heaven at the end of the play. It was like Spider Man meets Mary Poppins.

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Posted by Jungle Red 2012-11-13 01:07:55


I don't often post on serious Broadway threads, so I don't know who the joksters are and who aren't. It looks like it wasn't made in jest, as SondheimFan5 last post describes a pretty big set.

I adore Our Town.

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Posted by chewy5000 2012-11-13 02:29:44


Ha!

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Posted by dramamama611 2012-11-13 06:03:35


Thud.

(It was a joke, as was his next response. Although I'd go and see that Our Town, too.)

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Posted by son_of_a_gunn_25 2012-11-13 07:50:02


I've been trying to find the thread it was mentioned in, but a few years ago another poster mentioned a Broadway show where the director was in the audience when the set was first revealed to him. He was impatient because the actors weren't on stage yet. He asked something along the lines of "Where are the actors?" to which they responded from stage "We are here!" From what I remember they decided then and there that the set was overkill.

Can anyone help me out? I can't remember the name of the show.

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Posted by castlestreet 2012-11-13 08:03:51


Wouldn't you have to include Sunset Blvd in the conversation? I know just the house itself had to be controlled by a hydraulic lift.

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Posted by ucjrdude902 2012-11-13 08:11:07


I'd say Phantom and even Legally Blonde were a pretty big set. Hints the reason Blonde could only fit in the Palace and limited their option of a transfer.

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Posted by Phantom of London 2012-11-13 09:14:06


Arguable Aida, the one tht didn't make it to Broadway.

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Posted by Yero my Hero 2012-11-13 09:23:50


SPIDER-MAN pretty much has to be in this conversation. I'd also put YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN as one of the largest sets I have ever seen.

BILLY ELLIOT closed down the Imperial Theatre for something like six months gutting it so they could install the stairs that revolve up from under the stage.

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Posted by ajh 2012-11-13 09:26:51


what about the original Ragtime? or the original Sweeney? weren't they both Eugene Lee. "he doesn't know less is more" as Tommy Tune said about Ken Russell . Ok am rambling now......

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Posted by Nickhutson 2012-11-13 17:39:45


British shows: Starlight, Cats, Phantom, Mary Poppins, Sunset Boulevard.

US Productions: Ragtime, BIg, Beauty and the Beast all spring to mind.

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Posted by supersam1026 2012-11-13 18:33:39


The house in Mary Poppins is also really big!

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Posted by Hank 2012-11-13 18:45:11


Haha! those comments abour Barrow St "Our House" bring to my mind my classroom read through in high school, and the sets were similar, but in my mind, each time, I pictured myself in a small NH town, just over the Massachusets line.
It worked.

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Posted by finebydesign 2012-11-14 11:18:24


Most of the Disney shows have/had massive sets. Even the rigging for Tarzan was insane. Both Lion King and Tarzan had inflatable pieces because there was not enough space.

Legally Blonde didn't seem that huge to me, it seemed like mostly flats from the flies.

I've never seen Sunset but I've heard that was pretty incredible. The recent Into the Woods (though not on Broadway) had a massive set. And you can just forget about opera, those things are huge. I remember Taymor's Grendel opera being MASSIVE. George Typsin (Spiderman, Little Mermaid)designed that monster.

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Posted by Someone in a Tree2 2012-11-14 16:15:54


The original "My Fair Lady" would never be considered a giant set by today's standards, even though it dazzled folks at the Marc Hellinger with its double turntables back in '56. But that proscenium, along with most of the other shows mentioned above, are all in the standard range of 36' to 40' wide. Even the residents of the New Amsterdam ("Lion King" and "Mary Poppins"), the Ford/ Foxwoods ("Ragtime"), and the Palace ("Aida") don't exceed Broadway norms.

But "Spider-Man" is a special case-- George Tsypin burst the boundaries of the Foxwoods proscenium, both side to side and top to bottom to create what could well be the biggest Broadway set of all time. His design is not only on a giant scale, but constantly full of heavily mechanized set changes too-- big in all senses. He has competition though, from Eugene Lee and especially from John Napier.

John Napier filled the Minskoff with many tons of scenery for "Sunset Boulevard", but weightiest doesn't equal biggest-- his sets were all still contained within the proscenium arch. He went wider still at the Winter Garden for "Cats" with a set that wrapped around the full audience and back, but the Cats design depended more on light bulbs, blowup graphics and atmosphere than on scenery per se. I wouldn't count it as the biggest on Broadway.

Usually the biggest theater = the biggest set. Hence the Gershwin (which started out as the Uris) could probably claim pride of place on Broadway for any show that played there whose set spanned the full room. We're talking the original "Sweeney Todd" and "Wicked", both designed by Eugene Lee and both of which spread out into the house from wall to wall. But John Napier's "Starlight Express at the same theater (which I was one of an army of draftsman on) surpassed those 2 shows by building even more elaborate multilevel set units house right and left, along with elaborate looping ramps out into the orchestra. I'd give it the win. For now.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2012-11-14 16:24:23


Maybe you would know--I've wondered what's happened to John Napier? I'm sure he still makes big profits from tours, etc, but is he retired or something? For a while he was the go-to guy (with good reason) for those big, mainly UK based musicals, but I can't even remember the last major show he did.

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Posted by Someone in a Tree2 2012-11-14 17:14:26


Great question, Eric. I only worked with John Napier on 2 shows back in the late 80's early 90's-- endless months drafting on 2 different stateside designs for STARLIGHT EXPRESS, and illustrating the original designs for SIEGFRIED & ROY AT THE MIRAGE. I checked an internet website of UK theater-- looks like John is still designing the odd opera or show at the Royal Court. Turns out there was a Trevor Nunn-directed GONE WITH THE WIND back in '08 that John designed which toured the provinces.

Frankly I thought John was one of the true geniuses of musical theater design despite having only rudimentary sketching abilities (everything was discovered in the model-making process, in which John was incredibly hands-on). He could be very hot-or-cold when it came to personal interactions (he pissed a LOT of people off at the '87 Tony's for grudgingly accepting the Costume Design award for Starlight but being apoplectic for it not getting a set nomination as well). But he had a true artist's imagination and could create that visual sense of wonder and alchemy with the poorest materials--broken chairs and strings of lights -- as well as the luxuries that a SUNSET BOULEVARD could afford.

I'd love to see what else his imagination could offer us.

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Posted by westcoast_wannabe 2012-11-14 18:26:06


"But he had a true artist's imagination and could create that visual sense of wonder and alchemy with the poorest materials--broken chairs and strings of lights -- as well as the luxuries that a SUNSET BOULEVARD could afford."

That sentence makes me want to see what he could design for Follies.

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Posted by Someone in a Tree2 2012-11-15 15:05:15


I absolutely agree-- a Napier-designed FOLLIES could have been the best of all possible worlds as long as he had a producer with the money to carry out his grandest schemes. I'm picturing an amalgam of his NICHOLAS NICKLEBY pileup of walkways, ropes and trunks combined with some remnants of his SUNSET BOULEVARD architectural treasures. The last FOLLIES revival was clearly designed on the page 2-dimensionally-- what glory we might have seen had John gone at it with a collaged design through his gorgeous model making process.

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Posted by Phantom of London 2012-11-17 11:52:09


I waited for this thread to run its course, as my contender doesn't qualify for this thread, the show hasn't played Broadway (yet), it isn't that large and probably didn't cost a lot of money to conceive and build, nothing truly makes you say wow, when the show is in progress about what the set actually does, so perhaps my answer isn't a contender for this thread after all. Except the set is purely ingenious as a set in its solid entirety form, the set was designed by Rob Howell and will start previewing on the 04th March 2013 at the Shubert Theater, of course my answer is Matilda, if you will, which has just completed its 1st year in London, West End, I have resisted in posting a photo, so not to spoil the set for people who haven't seen it, but posted a link if people want to view it.

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Posted by ruthiefan_felix 2012-11-17 13:30:51


One of the biggest sets I've seen is definitely Lord of the Rings in the West End! Spiderman was pretty huge!

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Posted by TBFL 2012-11-17 16:20:44


Shogun on broadway was also pretty impressive!! I dont remember that much ab out it, but it was impressive. The Starlight set is still one of my all time favourites.

In terms of the West End, Time and Metropolis were probably the biggest. I doubt we will ever see sets like them again

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Posted by devonian.t 2012-11-17 17:43:31


Lord of the Rings was bigger than Time and Metropolis, though the latter ran it close.

Matilda is the victim of its origins on a thrust stage- all the main scenic elements are way upstage. Miss Honey's house is nothing.

Those Aida designs are gorgeous.